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Lesbian Pride March – Saturday 5th July – Women Only (London)

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LCommunity · 16/06/2025 13:13

Hi all,

Just flagging this for any lesbian or bi women who’ve felt pushed out of Pride, or like something’s quietly disappeared.

We’re organising a lesbian and bisexual women-only march on Saturday 5th July in central London. It’s the same day as the main Pride event – but we’re not part of their route, and we’re not affiliated.

Time: 11.00 AM
Meeting point: Emmeline Pankhurst Statue, Victoria Tower Gardens South (by Parliament)
Route: Walk to Parliament Square for a few short speeches, then back to the park for a picnic (or a nearby pub if it rains)

No men. No brands. No pressure.
Just women. In public. Without compromise.

It’s fully self-funded. All permits, insurance, stewards and first aid are covered.

RSVP now
Click “Attend” – even if you’re only thinking of coming. It helps us plan and it shows other women that this space is real.
New faces always welcome.
Meetup

If you’re coming alone or feeling nervous, join our entry WhatsApp group – we’ll look after you:
chat.whatsapp.com/FCsLSOzgV4C2yUGplyQr5m
(This is our public group – open to everyone before vetting. The private WhatsApp spaces are strictly filtered. Only verified, registered women are added after screening. To move into those, register and complete sex verification here: thelcommunity.com)

If you want to understand the story behind why this is needed:
thelcommunity.com/the-lie
https://thelcommunity.com/taking-back-pride/

They didn’t make space for us. So we did.

Lesbian Pride March – Saturday 5th July – Women Only (London)
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LCommunity · 17/06/2025 09:52

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/06/2025 16:08

I’m not included because I’m a straight woman, and thus far have managed not to lose my shit and threaten to turn up and shout at some Lesbians and Bisexual women having a picnic.

Amazing. I think I’m going to be able to maintain this level of self control right up until after the event

hope you have a lot of fun. It’s great to see women out and proud and organising

Thank you. Exactly. No one’s angry about being excluded unless they feel entitled to override lesbian boundaries. We appreciate the support and respect.

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Namechangeforobviousreasons100 · 17/06/2025 09:52

PrettyDamnCosmic · 17/06/2025 09:48

In theory anyone can join this lesbian & female bisexual march/picnic as there is no ticketing or verification of the participants. Participation just depends on normal polite societal norms i.e. you don't stick your nose in where you aren't welcome. Why would anyone who isn't a member of the invited groups want to attend when it's made clear that they aren't welcome? The Equality Act 2010 doesn't come into it.

I have said since the start I have no idea if the Equality Act is even relevant to this event, I was just responding to the pp who was talking about the fact that straight women are excluded from the event, who specifically said the Equality Act allows that.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2025 09:52

Namechangeforobviousreasons100 · 16/06/2025 20:49

Actually, I think if we’re talking about what the Equality Act allows here, the event could only be for lesbians or for bi women, but not both. Lesbians and bi women do not share the same protected characteristic in relation to sexual orientation.

They are both same sex attracted.

LCommunity · 17/06/2025 09:53

RedToothBrush · 16/06/2025 16:17

A march for lesbians and bi-sexual women is open to lesbians, bi-sexual women and transmen who are attracted to females.

This is therefore trans inclusive. Just not male inclusive because sexual attraction of females to females is the point.

HTH.

Exactly this. It’s about same-sex attraction. Female to female. No male inclusion no debate. That’s the boundary.

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Namechangeforobviousreasons100 · 17/06/2025 09:53

titchy · 17/06/2025 09:49

You can have an event for people who share two or three or four characteristics of course. What you cannot do is have something where people only meet one of the two protected characteristics. So black AND disabled - fine. Black OR disabled - not fine.

Exactly this

RedToothBrush · 17/06/2025 09:54

Namechangeforobviousreasons100 · 17/06/2025 09:35

Nothing you have said here relates to what the legislation actually says

You can have events where two protected characteristics are relevant so protected characteristic one is - women only and the other protected characteristic is same sex attracted or attracted to both sexes.

We wouldn't go around saying we have to invite black men to a black women's event, because the protected characteristics are race and women's only, now would we?!

Nowhere in legislation does it say you have to invite all people in both groups if you have two protected characteristics at play.

You have a legitimate aim here based on sex and sexual orientation of women.

Namechangeforobviousreasons100 · 17/06/2025 09:55

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2025 09:52

They are both same sex attracted.

Here are the definitions again, in case you missed them further up the thread

Lesbian Pride March – Saturday 5th July – Women Only (London)
PlasticAcrobat · 17/06/2025 09:55

titchy · 17/06/2025 09:49

You can have an event for people who share two or three or four characteristics of course. What you cannot do is have something where people only meet one of the two protected characteristics. So black AND disabled - fine. Black OR disabled - not fine.

I'm pretty sure that is just wrong. For example, what about an event for discussion of the church's attitude to homosexuality which billed itself as a forum for Christians and for gay people of any or no faith who wanted to understand more about how Christianity viewed them.

I'm not aware of anything at all in the judgement or the act that would prohibit that. Why on earth should it be prohibited.

Oh, also, lesbianism and bisexuality aren't two distinct protected characteristics. There is a single protected characteristic of sexuality covering both.

EDITED TO ADD: Also, the act doesn't make any sort of event illegal in principle, it just defines the parameters in which people can make a claim if they have been unreasonably disadvantaged by the parameters of the event on the grounds of a protected characteristic. Including two disjunctive characteristics might in some cases undermine the event organiserts claim that the exclusion of some groups was reasonable, but in other instances it would not.

LCommunity · 17/06/2025 09:56

WallaceinAnderland · 16/06/2025 16:34

They take our spaces and then we surrender them and make our own, they want to take them too.

Exactly. Every time women carve out a small space, someone demands access. That’s why this march matters because we’re not surrendering this one.

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LCommunity · 17/06/2025 09:58

BeanQuisine · 16/06/2025 16:55

Wishing all the best for the Lesbian Pride March!

One of the few groups really deserving a pride march in these aggressively male-dominated times.

I hope all goes well and the MRA goons don't get to ruin it all.

Thank you fully agree. In a time where lesbians are constantly pushed aside, we’re taking one day to stand visible. Whatever they throw, we’ll be there.

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LCommunity · 17/06/2025 09:59

ArabellaScott · 16/06/2025 17:01

It's not a surprise the trans activists will target a meeting that is women only.

It is, however, mean, bullying, creepy and wrong.

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Exactly. When women organise for themselves, this is sadly what follows. But we won’t be bullied out we’ll still march.

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Hoardasurass · 17/06/2025 10:00

AidaP · 16/06/2025 15:25

This is most pride thing to do, go and protest transphobia, read your history. I was gonna skip london but well, now I have a reason to come over and bring some friends along!

See you all there!

I look forward to seeing pictures of you and your friends in the papers for your homophobic hate rally at a lesbian pride event I'm sure it will be an enlightening image to those who didn't know how homophobic the T is

LCommunity · 17/06/2025 10:00

SapphosRock · 16/06/2025 17:02

This sounds great OP, I hope it goes really well. I would love to come but have my kids that day.

Excellent that you are doing this.

Thank you and if there’s any chance you can still pop by, even briefly, you’d be very welcome. Every woman showing up matters.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2025 10:02

Namechangeforobviousreasons100 · 17/06/2025 09:55

Here are the definitions again, in case you missed them further up the thread

Women who are lesbian and women who are bisexual share the protected characteristic of being same sex attracted. It remains to be seen whether being bisexual would be seen as an exclusive group other than exclusively same sex attracted people for this purpose but that doesn’t seem to be how it’s worked in law to date, or you arguably wouldn’t be able to have groups for “LGBT” people at all. I’m not convinced by your reasoning.

LCommunity · 17/06/2025 10:02

KeineBedeutung · 16/06/2025 17:09

I understand who it's about and am in support of them, I just wondered if they'd welcome straight women who wanted to stand alongside. I totally get that it's not for men. I also respect that it might not be for me either.
(Too far for me, just wondered generally).

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Thank you and yes, it’s centred on lesbians and bi women, but we know some straight women support us quietly from the sidelines. That solidarity matters too.

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LCommunity · 17/06/2025 10:03

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 16/06/2025 17:14

To be fair if I wanted to go to a protest but there was a high chance that your mates may turn including aggressive men in balaclavas and others holding placards calling for violence towards me then I probably wouldn’t bother.

This is why we’re marching. And we’re not backing down.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2025 10:05

PlasticAcrobat · 17/06/2025 09:55

I'm pretty sure that is just wrong. For example, what about an event for discussion of the church's attitude to homosexuality which billed itself as a forum for Christians and for gay people of any or no faith who wanted to understand more about how Christianity viewed them.

I'm not aware of anything at all in the judgement or the act that would prohibit that. Why on earth should it be prohibited.

Oh, also, lesbianism and bisexuality aren't two distinct protected characteristics. There is a single protected characteristic of sexuality covering both.

EDITED TO ADD: Also, the act doesn't make any sort of event illegal in principle, it just defines the parameters in which people can make a claim if they have been unreasonably disadvantaged by the parameters of the event on the grounds of a protected characteristic. Including two disjunctive characteristics might in some cases undermine the event organiserts claim that the exclusion of some groups was reasonable, but in other instances it would not.

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Exactly.

LCommunity · 17/06/2025 10:05

ArabellaScott · 16/06/2025 17:19

'Protesting' a woman only picnic ffs.

What else will you protest? Women who are kissing someone and not you? It's not even a stretch, is it? It's pure incel behaviour. Embarrasing and gross.

Yes, of course its sunlight and will peak people. But ffs, women are sick of having to be the demonstration model that sexist, misogynist and predatory bullshit abounds.

WE KNOW.

Exactly. The bullying always starts before the march even happens. But they won’t scare us off. We’ll still be there visible, proud, and standing together.

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LCommunity · 17/06/2025 10:06

TheOtherRaven · 16/06/2025 17:20

One of the key aims of the posts on this thread will be to attempt to scare women out of risking attending.

Exactly. The bullying always starts before the march even happens. But they won’t scare us off. We’ll still be there visible, proud, and standing together.

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LCommunity · 17/06/2025 10:07

TheOtherRaven · 16/06/2025 17:26

Homosexual women not allowed at Pride. Now not allowed to leave Pride in peace and go and be by themselves either. Not allowed to meet. Not allowed a space to meet in.

My God how some men lose it and dispatch the flying monkeys when there's a woman refusing to have sex with men.

And there are those in this movement who apparently wants Pride - all of it - the gay Pride AND the Trans Pride, AND to own and control absolutely everything else too. Their own cake, everyone else's cake, all the cake, all the time. If anyone else has a crumb anywhere it's an act of defiance that must be punished. Wtf is wrong with these people?

This is it. Lesbians are constantly told to either submit or disappear. The second we organise anything for ourselves, it’s treated as an act of defiance. That’s why this march matters and why we’re not backing down.

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LCommunity · 17/06/2025 10:09

Treaclewell · 16/06/2025 17:46

Plan for dealing with uppity women.

  1. Write to authorities in area accusing them of being political. Even if it's a knitting group. Remember the tricoteuses. Your letters won't be published, your objections not identified so you can continue to 2. as if you had only just heard of it. 2.Ask if the event includes those it obviously doesn't and say you will be counter protesting it. Rub in the descriptions reminding women of what they will endure. This will stop many people attending. 3.Attend in the usual way and record everything from angles that identify the knitters as the cause of trouble.

I wouldn't be surpised if our dear Chris had not been in communication with the authorities about the difficulties caused by the uppity women.

And this is exactly the playbook women face every time they organise: smear, intimidate, distort. But we see it. And we’re not playing along. The march goes ahead.

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LCommunity · 17/06/2025 10:11

Helleofabore · 16/06/2025 17:50

The reaction that a lesbian and bisexual women-only march has drawn from a particular poster that a 'counter protest' should be organised should be considered what it is. Posts that are encouraging harm and are actually threatening in light of previous posting history.

Because this poster has in the past called violent and intimidating protest tactics 'peaceful'. And has dismissed violent acts as just being like 'comedy routines' and the like.

It is truly concerning to see a poster declaring that a 'peaceful' protest should be organised. Because that word 'peaceful', in light of that history, means anything but!

This is exactly why lesbians need to march because even our safety gets treated like a provocation.

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LCommunity · 17/06/2025 10:13

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/06/2025 18:32

There really is something about lesbians that gets the homophobic looney men rubbing their knees

how little self awareness they have (but that goes with declaring you’ve changed sex and expecting everyone to take you seriously I suppose)

Exactly. Lesbian boundaries seem to trigger a special kind of rage in certain men. That’s why we stand firm we won’t be shamed for saying no.

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TWETMIRF · 17/06/2025 10:14

Imagine being such a pathetic loser that you would protest against lesbians getting together. Does the sight of women meeting without men make your dick shrivel up and fall off?

LCommunity · 17/06/2025 10:15

DuesToTheDirt · 16/06/2025 19:16

The phrase "women only" really brings out the nutjobs, doesn't it? If men can't be included, they don't want it to happen, and will do anything to stop it.

Exactly. The very idea of “women only” seems to trigger them like nothing else. Which is why holding this boundary matters more than ever.

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