House of Commons apologises after RMW permitted to use ladies' loos

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https://www.thetimes.com/article/e3c3967f-8712-4591-9897-fe04588000ca?shareToken=5ffa7fb5239ea83f779908352e494c14

RMW claims he had never been challenged on his use of women's loos before - well, now he has, and the HoC has acknowledged it was wrong to allow him into those facilities.

He knew that he'd be allowed in the women's toilets and knew that someone also attending the committee meeting would challenge him and escalate it.

He's doing it to demonstrate that the worst that will happen is he's told not to do it again.

are there any consequences for breaching women’s rights to privacy, safety and dignity?

Pubs could bar you, employer could discipline you, but there’s not a penalty in any of the legislation?

Or use the “gender neutral” (mixed sex) ones they have in HOC?

Facilities wouldn’t need to be policed if males obeyed the law. The level of entitlement is so strong that even barristers believe they can just ignore laws that they don’t like.

White was reduced to saying the women were rude, embarrassing and shouty, that he has a medical condition which makes proximity to a toilet paramount, even though the unisex is the same distance and anyway it's not his fault, because he was told, twice, to use the ladies.

In the House of Commons, whilst specifically discussing the illegality of what he was doing

It's such a bloody show up for these men. You have to wonder why they don't just go to the gender neutral and have done with it

I know it was deliberate behaviour in order to use the ladies. But I'm wondering if the extra motive is that now he doesn't have to encounter that sort of reaction again, he can just use the gents, or unisex, albeit in a frame of mass disgruntlement, and under protest.

And why would he need to be directed there the second time. Does he have amnesia that also causes him to forget the Supreme Court ruling?

Again the absence of female pronouns. 👍

Erm, this is reminding me of a 6 year old:

Mummy: “why did you throw Janet’s ball into the stinging nettles”

6 year old : “John told me to”

And wearing a "progress" lanyard

Yes, as a tactic, it's transparent and silly

im baffled that RMW needed to ask where thd toilets were at all seeing as he’s been hanging around parliament for years pushing the trans agenda over cosy chats in tea rooms and bars as well as attending committees & meetings

It also shows that all the employees in parliament are pretty lacking in diversity

I suspect they consider themselves the paradigm of DEI World leaders in fact.

Well he only has a little lady brain so can't be expected to remember anything other than how to do housework and have pillow fights.

Is it actually illegal? I thought the understanding was it's illegal for the HoC to not provide single sex spaces. In the first place it's their duty to ensure people use the correct facilities. For a guest like White, that might consist of a written warning prior to any future visits, followed by barring him if he doesn't comply.

I don't think using the wrong space is in itself a crime on the part of the perpetrator, but could potentially be some kind of harassment offence if he continues to do it after being asked not to? Or would that require it to be repeatedly against the same woman?

Of course he is deliberately taking advantage of the fact staff haven't been properly briefed. Which is disgraceful behaviour in a lawyer.

This really is just grist for the mill that they believe will produce legal cases or pressure to change the law. Very deliberate to for the strategy.

I said this on another thread but I work in a university and trans colleagues are openly saying they will not use gender neutral facilities as it would 'out' them as trans. Leaving aside the fact that everyone knows instantly their actual sex, it does mean that it's up to women to complain and that is bad for our safety (and our careers in the madness of Higher Education)

RMW reminds me of Jan/James Morris. a man who has typically masculine interests and/or occupation - in RMW's case he like fast sports cars, military memorabilia, and flying ( if I remember rightly?) and actually has disdian for female sensibilities and the roles that women are often occupying in real life.

'Being a woman' is not actually what is being sought.......what is being sought is entirely self referential and geared towards self gratification. Actual women with their "shrieky" voices are a huge turn off.

Are these colleagues male, and how many of them are there, out of interest?

@Shortshriftandlethal both male and like RMW not tiny. Both also furious about the SC ruling and any suggestion that the university should make anything single sex. We've had lots of emails etc about the ruling all saying how hard it is for trans students and staff not one mention of women

Of course not. Females - their dignity and rights - are totally erased by trans ideology.

Yes, remember the “cauldron” quip. Frequently “trans women” are not just men, they are the most sexist men.

Can you remind us of that? I don't recall.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/sarah-phillimore-and-robin-moira-white-interviewed-by-andrew-doyle?reply=123353633&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

See link, from Jan 23 on this site.