The irony of the trans community hating on Lilly Tino??

[BilliVeanne]

Do they not see the fucking hypocrisy?

My tiktok FYP is full of post about Lilly Tino flaunting his Disney ban and taking videos and pictures in Disney toilets, which is against Disneys rules and the LAW in Florida.

Apparently one of the women in the video is pressing charges and planning in sueing.

Comments section is full of people who have Trans flags in their names writing things like 'I'm trans but Lilly Tino is not a transwoman he is a pervert'
'I hate Lilly Tino'
'So sick of this man prendibg to be trans and making teouble for all the real transwomen'

Uh, what???!

How can they possibly say who is really trans and who isn't? Isn't it all internal and based on feelings?

Isn't it transphobic to say Lily isn't a woman if he says he is?

So a transwoman is always a woman until they're problematic...but only for the trans community, being problematic to women is fine??

I just can't wrap my head around it.

Either TWAW and Lilly Tino is one because he says he is or TWAM and being in womens bathrooms is an issue?!
Or its only an issue when theyre openly brazen about it??

It was never the most logical of ideologies. Has he just been banned or was he already banned and went anyway? TBH I can understand why they're fuming. He's a terrible advert for the trans community and his facial feminisation surgery was clearly a complete failure.

AFAIK he had been banned but continued to go and was allowed in despite that. Then decided to do a video review of all the bathrooms in Disney, whilst talking about how he stands to pee 🤨

I can see why they would want to distance themselves from him because he makes TW look terrible. But according to their “rules” (self ID, acceptance without exception) he’s theirs

You know I think many are confusing him with that guy who did the complete pisstake recently - was it Josh Seiter from Bachelorette? Would be hilarious if they are. Lilly Tino has had facial feminisation surgery (but most certainly hasn’t had bottom surgery as I learnt to my cost by looking at their Twitter once!) If they’re ‘fake’ in some trans/trans ally’s eyes, then they’re on a very shoogly peg, as they say in these here parts!

I regret searching him on twitter to see what is going on.

We have regularly seen on MN FWR where male posters with gender identities actively gate keep who is and who isn’t ‘transgender’. And supposed ally posters.

It is really very common.

How many times have we seen a poster who has censured our words, admonished and berated us, then attempt to define what gender means or who they, personally, consider to be transgender and it turns out that they are gate keeping who is and isn’t transgender. That they have a set definition that excludes groups of people. Transmaxxers get excluded all the time, even if they have had surgeries. Rapists and sex offenders get excluded regularly.

There is little coherence to who is and who isn’t. In comparison though, female people are never excluded from being female people. And therefore when single sex provisions are discussed, it is clear who should be and shouldn’t be excluded.

He’s a fucking creep, but a great part of ‘let them speak’. If some men in dresses are clearly disturbing and unhinged, all of them can FRO.

That is why it is whole lot simpler to keep them all out of women's spaces full stop.

Ok, so what’s a transmaxxer, @Helleofabore ? I assumed maxing trans would be seen as ‘a good thing’ in trans circles so I obviously don’t know what it means

Is a transmaxxer the same as a truscum? If so, they are the worst of the worst according to trans reddit (apart from non compliant women, obviously we are the absolute worst).

There are often threads on Reddit- usually started after yet another TW has been found guilty of sex offences- that descend into a real bunfight between TRAs who think the sex offender is only pretending to be trans to make TW look bad, and TRAs who are furious at the thought of gatekeeping the trans experience.

Isn’t it a man who claims a trans identity because they think it’ll make them more attractive to potential partners? Mainly incels? I’ve never understood the logic of it.

Huh. Ok. Safe to google for once 🤣

An unsuccessful man who decides to transition socially as it’s easier to be a woman- easier to get dates, be treated nicely, etc.

Good luck with that chaps. It’s a niche world I would think. And also one not open to actual women, I would think.

I don't get why they're going after him? Taking photos of yourself in the women's toilets and making a big deal about being in there is pretty much par for the course.
I can't count how many men in dresses I've seen taking toilet selfies. Why are they bothered about this one? I dont know who he is so am I missing something?

He’s too visible. He’s gained a lot of traction online and there are tons of YouTubers calling him out.

Yes. It is.

They are male people who have decided that they will do better sexually if they transition to be considered in the group of people who have rejected them sexually. Ie that they are women and will have a better chance of having any sex that way. Or so I believe. We had a late night transmaxxer come and ‘educate’ late one night years ago.

To me he’s a great representative of the average male TRA.

How is “Lilly” any different to Sophie Molly, Freda, Heather Herbert, SJ Baker etc?

This is what I don't get. There's nothing new here that I can see. This is the same stuff that they're telling us terfs off for objecting to. It does feel like there is a massive shift going on. Perhaps this is part of it.

He isn’t. Except for the fact that he punishes serving staff in establishments who correctly identify his sex to gain victimhood for likes. And maybe free meals??

This stunt at Disney was vile. Noting women’s rejection when deliberating entering female toilets and filming there as well.

The others would use that for political value. This man uses it for likes and social media influencer status.

He isn’t but I think he has a much higher profile than any of them. I’m getting recommended tons of videos on YouTube about him and how problematic he is, even from trans ally types. They won’t like the amount of sunlight his videos are shining.

Absolutely…it’s all part of the grift. I’m assuming he is monetised on TikTok?

He wasn't banned. He made a video showing the surgery in a busy area of Disneyland(I think) using cake pops to explain it to children/ people on Tiktok. He said 'i hope I don't get banned'. Never did though and went to Disney last week taking photos in the bathroom which is illegal in the state of Florida. Some women in the background are planning on taking him to court for it.

He also cosplays as Mrs Rachel and promotes his only fans on the same account.

Things become so much clearer if you just remember that there are only men and there are only women.

Genderism is just smoke and mirrors to obscure this simple truth.

My thoughts exactly. He looks and acts just like many of TW you see protesting here in the UK.