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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Does Imane Khelif even have a DSD?

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BeLemonNow · 03/06/2025 15:01

Giving the widespread reporting of a previous test showing Imane Khelif is biologically male / XY is there actually any evidence as to whether or not they even have a Disorder of Sexual Development (DSD). Or is this straightforward fraud? I know there was speculation before...

By DSD, going by NHS information, in this case I mean XY chromosomes with an abnormality causing a baby's genitals to look female (but not a DSD where there's XY and some sort of penis even if smaller than normal). To be clear, I am aware that these differences are usually apparent by puberty. It looks likely Imane went through male puberty.

Apologies if this has been covered in a different thread, but I cannot see it anywhere. I am aware that the only IOC criteria to compete at the Olympics was a female passport - ridiculous really - but that Imane has been claiming to be living as a woman since birth.

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theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 18/09/2025 13:51

This? Wait for it...

Does Imane Khelif even have a DSD?
Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/09/2025 13:52

That’s the one!

lcakethereforeIam · 18/09/2025 13:56

He did that magazine shoot and all the outfits he modelled were sharp suits. Nary a frock.

TomorrowisMonday · 18/09/2025 14:03

Helleofabore · 18/09/2025 13:42

I also doubt that Khelif lives in any other way as female. When you consider the physical contact that he has with his coaching and management team, that would be unacceptable for any female athlete.

The ring side hand pat on what would be a breast if either of those two men considered that Khelif ‘lived’ as female would be an international sexual harassment scandal. Not one media outlet mentioned it.

Khelif fully knows that he is male and I doubt he lives as a female person in any capacity except to continue the reminder that he was erroroneously categorised as female on a birth certificate.

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coughs allegedly categorised as female on a birth certificate. That has never been verified, even though Algeria has a national birth register.

For the particular DSD may well have been visibly undermasculised, or ambiguous sex, at birth and decided to raise as female.

SinnerBoy · 18/09/2025 14:10

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 18/09/2025 13:51

This? Wait for it...

Definitely a woman, 100% Look, he's wearing pink and all.

Helleofabore · 18/09/2025 14:47

TomorrowisMonday · 18/09/2025 14:03

coughs allegedly categorised as female on a birth certificate. That has never been verified, even though Algeria has a national birth register.

For the particular DSD may well have been visibly undermasculised, or ambiguous sex, at birth and decided to raise as female.

Yeah. I get that the birth registration has not been confirmed, but I am going to assume that the birth certificate would have been produced to several sports agencies by now. Sure it could be a fake, but I think it is just as likely to be a decision by a doctor at birth.

I can only hope that these infants are now being correctly assessed using whatever modern technology that is available so these children have a clearer path in life.

TomorrowisMonday · 18/09/2025 15:03

Going to assume that the birth certificate would have been produced to several sports agencies by now

You are welcome to have a look, but from what I could find yesterday that's an incorrect though understandable assumption.

I asked Chat GPT to look for evidence anyone has verified the birth record or certificate, including Algerian gov, the IOC, in English, French and Arabic and it couldn't find anything.

The dad has been seen waving a birth certificate around but that's about it.

TomorrowisMonday · 18/09/2025 15:05

Ps if indeterminate sex at birth possibly sex wasn't filled in. I don't know how different countries handle that situation.

Helleofabore · 18/09/2025 15:06

TomorrowisMonday · 18/09/2025 15:03

Going to assume that the birth certificate would have been produced to several sports agencies by now

You are welcome to have a look, but from what I could find yesterday that's an incorrect though understandable assumption.

I asked Chat GPT to look for evidence anyone has verified the birth record or certificate, including Algerian gov, the IOC, in English, French and Arabic and it couldn't find anything.

The dad has been seen waving a birth certificate around but that's about it.

Fair enough. I hope that now it is simply irrelevant for the future. I don't believe that the IOC will have any interest in apologising or rescinding the medals though. Because they will say that their rules were met, that the responsibility was the Algerian olympic organisers. Sadly.

eatfigs · 19/09/2025 23:38

https://lecorrespondant.net/docteur-suis%e2%80%91je-un-homme-le-dossier-medical-interdit-dimane-khelif/

Article published today with more details from Khelif's medical report

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eatfigs · 19/09/2025 23:51

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eatfigs · 19/09/2025 23:56

Rest of the article is about the cover-up and how Algerian authorities and the IOC were well aware of Khelif's condition long before the Paris Olympics, also the current happenings with World Boxing and the CAS.

Helleofabore · 20/09/2025 00:24

Thanks eatfigs. I wonder what the reaction will be.

moto748e · 20/09/2025 00:28

I've said it before, but the IOC really are a bunch of shits, aren't they? They are the complete antithesis of what the Olympian ideal is supposed to be about.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/09/2025 00:32

Le Correspondant have been doggedly pursuing this story since the Olympics, I think Khelif even threatened to sue them at one point.

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2025 07:15

eatfigs · 19/09/2025 23:56

Rest of the article is about the cover-up and how Algerian authorities and the IOC were well aware of Khelif's condition long before the Paris Olympics, also the current happenings with World Boxing and the CAS.

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They knew all along. What would have happened had he killed a woman? Brain injured her?

ThatCyanCat · 20/09/2025 07:25

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2025 07:15

They knew all along. What would have happened had he killed a woman? Brain injured her?

They would have said she shouldn't be a boxer if she wasn't prepared to take a hit, cheered him on for disabling her with his male punches, gaslit everyone that he was a woman, and congratulated themselves for being human rights activists akin to the civil rights movement and gay rights campaigners.

ThePinkPoster · 20/09/2025 07:30

Why on all those documents is he STILL being referred to as she/her??

ThatCyanCat · 20/09/2025 07:33

ThePinkPoster · 20/09/2025 07:30

Why on all those documents is he STILL being referred to as she/her??

Fear.

Obeseandashamed · 20/09/2025 07:45

I don’t have a particular interest in DSD etc but read this thread because of the controversy surrounding IK. I find the number of people referring to IK as a man astonishing. We live in an era that supports the right to be recognised as the gender you choose. I understand the not wanting IK to compete in the same class as other females who clearly have very different physical statures but I cannot understand the repeated describing IK as a man and referred to as he/him when she has lived her life as a woman. Being disqualified from competing is one thing but being disrespected for something beyond your control is another.

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2025 07:48

Obeseandashamed · 20/09/2025 07:45

I don’t have a particular interest in DSD etc but read this thread because of the controversy surrounding IK. I find the number of people referring to IK as a man astonishing. We live in an era that supports the right to be recognised as the gender you choose. I understand the not wanting IK to compete in the same class as other females who clearly have very different physical statures but I cannot understand the repeated describing IK as a man and referred to as he/him when she has lived her life as a woman. Being disqualified from competing is one thing but being disrespected for something beyond your control is another.

Oh, right. It's because he is a man, knows he is a man, and punched women in the head for money. Do you see?

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2025 07:49

We live in an era that supports the right to be recognised as the gender you choose

That era is done.

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2025 07:52

I do disrespect men who beat women. Very much. I find it astonishing that anyone attempts to defend it, to be perfectly honest.

ThatBlackCat · 20/09/2025 07:52

Obeseandashamed · 20/09/2025 07:45

I don’t have a particular interest in DSD etc but read this thread because of the controversy surrounding IK. I find the number of people referring to IK as a man astonishing. We live in an era that supports the right to be recognised as the gender you choose. I understand the not wanting IK to compete in the same class as other females who clearly have very different physical statures but I cannot understand the repeated describing IK as a man and referred to as he/him when she has lived her life as a woman. Being disqualified from competing is one thing but being disrespected for something beyond your control is another.

And we don't understand your penis-pandering, @Obeseandashamed . No one should gaslight women to ignore what our eyeballs see and our lived experience as the oppressed sex to cosplay in a man's fetish and call him she/her. How dare you expect that of us? Take your handmaiden 'BeKind' to the poor mens 'feelz' elsewhere. We say NO to pandering to mentally ill males.

Kucinghitam · 20/09/2025 07:58

"Other females"

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