Yasmin Alibhai-Brown "Most rape is commited by men men"

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Andrew Doyle explaining what the Supreme Court ruling means for women's rights. Yamin Alibhai - Brown stating that most rape is commited by "men men and not trans men".

I'm absolutely disgusted that women are still coming out and defending men.

I liked the gracious way he smiled at her hysterical reactions. He knew she looked foolish

"Most rape is commited by men men"

If she meant men, then thats obvious because men who identify as trans form such a small percentage of the population.
But a disproportionate number of men who identify as trans who are in prison have been convicted of a sex offence. Its well over 50%, and the percentage is consistent wherever its been calculated.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5241726-almost-two-thirds-of-tw-prisoners-are-sex-offenders

The men men made me laugh is this a new definition of biological men?, is she referring to Pete the Plumber?

😂

Also, if it’s ‘most’ rape committed by men men, not all rape, that leaves some rape, which must have been committed by women men, because women women can’t rape.
I quite like the implied terminology- men men and women men - it recognises that whatever they do, they are indeed still men.

She clearly doesn't know what she is talking about.

I really dislike her. I watch JV and I disagree with the vast majority of her opinions (and plenty of those she has!!)

I enjoy that show as I feel it’s well balanced, as it generally has two panelists with opposing views and as soon as it’s her on, I just know I’m going to agree with the other person. She’s an absolute bad head and pain in the neck!

Oh but she’s been a journalist for 37 years, won awards, but still got paid less than her white male counterparts so she knows what she’s talking about. Failed to comprehend that had the meritocracy that Andrew proposed as being the model we need to aspire to, that she might have had a different experience.

Yasmin A-B is always screechy and makes everything about race.

But more annoying is the screeching, hysterical, uncontrolled outrage she expresses wiggling in her seat like she has ants in her pants. I find it incredibly sad that we have women like this on our TV, in debates who cannot hold it together

tbh that’s exactly the response I’ve had on the very few occasions I’ve discussed it outside of MN. People immediately go into shouty “how very dare you!!” mode which makes having a sensible conversation impossible

How about 'all rape is committed by post-pubescent males, the vast majority legally adult.

Your woman is on the long list of British people I don't need to know about,.

Most rapes are carried out by men men, some rapes are carried out by men who think they are women, what?

I don’t know what point she was making. Isn’t that an own goal?

Where does it go? Most rapes are carried out by blonde and brown haired men and only a few by red haired men, so red haired men can go in women’s spaces? There’s less of them so stop complaining about it and let the red haired men do whatever they want. (sorry red haired people - you are beautiful)

Id also point out that women raped or assaulted by strangers don’t have a discussion about gender diversity, or acceptable pronouns at the time, they just know it’s a man. When they say they were assaulted by a man, they haven’t discussed the rainbow of gender identities in their heart of hearts with their atttacker.

She’s not the brightest. She didn’t understand what was going on as transsexual misogynist Jan Morris was making comments about young Yasmin’s underwear while in the ladies toilets.

She’s so intent on dismissing this - she’s protesting a bit much imo.

This!

So let me get this straight...
A man man has a penis and a transman doesn't...

So wouldn't that automatically mean that... um...

I love Andrew Doyle.

Her lack of understanding the basics that her wording just shouts out is bad enough. But even if looked at as what I presume she meant - that most rape is committed by non-trans identified men, not trans identified men - her statement is asinine.

Most rape is committed by men who haven’t been convicted of rape. It doesn’t make the ones who have been convicted of rape any safer.

No, she's muddying the waters. I think she knows that a transman is a woman (I've heard her on similar). By saying transmen do not commit rape (which I presume is true) she is hiding that transwomen can and do - but they're women, not transmen. It's either bait and switch or motte and bailey! She is a disgrace.

Sadly my DD, who knows fine you cannot change sex, always goes into 'be kind', 'it doesn't matter' mode.

My daughter (nurse NHS) would also get shouty and screechy. Seems to have died off a bit,

After the SC ruling she asked me what about the transexuals.

I could not be arsed to give her much of an answer other that why is that a woman problem?

No reply of course.

I reckon as with Yasmin and my daughter they are suffering severe cognitive dissonance in the face of CASS, Peggie, and the SC ruling of course. They are struggling with keeping hold of the none existent logic.

So i think they will eventually stop it and find a ferret so to speak.

I think if we apply logic and facts to what she said we get most rape is commited by biological men not biological men who identify as not men.

If Jeremy Vine had a backbone or allowed Andrew To pursue this she could have explained how we are to tell the difference between a biological man and a biological man.

I doubt many trans activists would like her new terminology of 'men men'

No, do not confuse men men with a man's man but each man's man is a man man. A Ladies Man is not a trans man, because a trans man is a woman man, and therefore a trans woman is a man woman who is no longer a man man.

Simples.

So what’s the other type? The type she’s referring to - I assume - must be womany men?

There's an argument people trying to defend indefensible positions often have no choice but to make when different groups of people are being compared. The total number of xxxx without taking into consideration the size of each group.
Normalisation, per capita, or percentage reporting where the two groups are compared by the proportion of xxxx per person in the group is the enemy and must be avoided at all costs.
Saying male men commit the largest total number of rapes is true, but is deliberately chosen to avoid mentioning the %age of rapists/sex offenders difference between male men and male women. We all know why.

It's not only in this context this slight of hand is performed. There are other societal problems like different cultural groups of men raping young women in an organised manner where this tactic is employed to try and distract and deflect from acknowleging disproportionately high offending rates among certain groups. Again, we all know why.

I remember an article she wrote some years ago, possibly in The Independent, when nude shoes were very fashionable, claiming that somehow for women of colour the shoe somehow was excluding them because it didn't match their skin tone. Confusing really, I'd have thought black was the predominant colour for shoes or it was at that time and anyway clothes and shoes don't necessarily have to match skin tones, different of course with make up. She does seem to take so much as a personal insult. Andrew Doyle was magnificently tolerant, she was appallingly reactionary, rude and screechy.