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Yasmin Alibhai-Brown "Most rape is commited by men men"

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Alucard55 · 29/05/2025 14:50

Andrew Doyle explaining what the Supreme Court ruling means for women's rights. Yamin Alibhai - Brown stating that most rape is commited by "men men and not trans men".

I'm absolutely disgusted that women are still coming out and defending men.

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Abhannmor · 29/05/2025 20:54

OK....does anyone else have the theme song to Two and a Half Men going through their head now 😂

Theeyeballsinthesky · 29/05/2025 21:11

Abhannmor · 29/05/2025 20:54

OK....does anyone else have the theme song to Two and a Half Men going through their head now 😂

👀😁

ApocalipstickNow · 29/05/2025 21:21

No but I do have Now You’re A Man by DVDA/South Park stuck in my head now.

limecola · 29/05/2025 21:29

She isn't wrong that men commit the most rape but "men" also includes transwomen, who have exactly the same rate of sexual offending against women and children as any other man. That is why men, all kind of men, even those who live in a fantasy where they imagine they are women need to be kept the hell out of women's spaces, women who fail to see this reality and who pander to these men really are the most idiotic of useful idiots. A wolf in sheeps clothing is still a wolf.

Yasmin Alibhai-Brown "Most rape is commited by men men"
Boston365 · 29/05/2025 21:36

Erm Yasmin this might shock you but they’re all men men, yes even the ones that wear dresses 🙄

KnottyAuty · 29/05/2025 21:50

I’m so disappointed in YA-B. I remember her talking a lot of sense … apparently less so these days. She was not on top of this topic at all unfortunately. What a shame.

She was so busy slagging off white men she couldn’t get past her own bias that Andrew was much better informed than she was. She kept correcting the men when they spoke over her, but repeatedly interrupted them. I was surprised they didn’t flag that to her - but I suppose they just left her to look like an idiot instead of appearing to mansplain.

Andrew Doyle though - my word he was on fire with the facts! Spot on with his correction about lady hale who avoided saying what she thought and reported some doctors’ views! Yasmin apparently had missed that important subtlety and parroted a mangled/incorrect version. Embarrassing.

I’m now torn because I hate the title of his book - but based on this clip the content might be very good.

orangegato · 29/05/2025 22:02

If most rapes are carried out by younger men shall we let old men in our bogs? No? TIM are MEN, all men are excluded doesn’t mean all need to be rapists though to want any subset of men dress or not to stay the fuck out. Stupid woman.

GallantKumquat · 29/05/2025 22:18

I think the 91% talking point is a big opportunity for GCs in the public debate. The fact is that there is no data integrity in the statistics being kept regarding sex, gender identity and crime. The side that's trying to make a statistical case that TW are no more likely to commit sexual violence against women than women themselves (a claim that we know in advance to not only be unsupported by robust studies but in fact false due to the prevalence of TW in prison, and that to the contrary it may be that TW are more predisposed to sexual violence than men as a whole) is also the side that is resisting the collection of reliable sex and gender based data -- insisting that the two be conflated.

This is a contradiction that amounts to intellectual dishonesty and should be pointed out and made a lightning rod in the ongoing debate regarding amendments to the Data (Use and Access) Bill.

And of course it should be pointed out that this is just a precondition, even if it were proven that TW pose not greater risk than women, that is not sufficient justification in itself to allow them into women's spaces.

porridgecake · 29/05/2025 22:31

I used to quite like her, but in recent years she has revealed a disappointing degree of ignorance and stupidity. The trouble is, she is accustomed to being asked her opinion. Presumably she no longer bothers to do any research.

Bannedontherun · 29/05/2025 22:53

The positive out of this is that we are starting to see reality advocates getting on main stream TV. Not a tsunami just yet, but am hopeful.

@KnottyAuty if you are referring to the word woke in his book title, woke is not as it used to mean which is his point

EdithStourton · 30/05/2025 06:57

Goodness, she was rude.
Also it's clear that she doesn't care enough about women's rights to investigate the issue thoroughly - she's more concerned with being OTRSOH.

CautiousLurker01 · 30/05/2025 07:07

She, and in fact many other pundit guests, are amongst the reason I stopped tuning in. It was only marginally better when Matthew Wright had that slot, but the guests all seem to think their opinion, shouted loudly and over guests speaking, is what the audience has tuned in for. I find them all quite dogmatic and often deeply rude.

I used to quite like YAB but she has definitely become loud and egotistical in the last 5 years or so - and her dismissiveness over women rights was shocking. There is no hierarchy of discrimination where her skin colour is more important than other women’s rights and nor do trans rights trump all. I only watched because Andrew shared his clip and I was simply stunned Vine had given him an airing on is show. I won’t be tuning in again.

borntobequiet · 30/05/2025 07:10

This issue so exposes many pundits who have based their careers on being apparently intelligent, knowledgeable and logical, but are in fact as dim, poorly informed and confused as the rest of us, if not more so. JAB is a good example of the type.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 30/05/2025 07:39

YAB is another prime example of what I like to call the MCKEBNIs (Middle Class Kids Educated Beyond their Natural Intellect), who then gain undeserved platforms and positions of soft power due to the hoarding of social capital.

How art thee a hypocrite, Yasmin? Let me count the ways.

  1. Endless handwringing about American 'imperialism' without ever acknowledging the foul and rancid way in which women are treated in extreme Islamic theocracies;
  2. Endless complaints about Britain's involvement with slavery without ever mentioning a) that is was the tribal chieftains of West Africa who most enthusiastically ensured supply of slaves and b) we pretty much bankrupted ourselves ENDING the slave trade - for no other reason than we thought it morally right;
  3. Endless complains about the Tories without ever once mentioning her vast privilege and asset-rich familial wealth;
  4. Stood by India Knight and her rancid paedophilic partner. Enough said.

I really am fed up of poshos espousing the lefty omnicause and telling us great unwashed WC women what we should think and believe, whilst secretly piling up wealth on the backs of our disenfranchisement.

I'm sick of it. And I know I'm not the only one.

faffadoodledo · 30/05/2025 07:45

She is a useful rent-a-gob wheeled out by lazy producers who want someone to say something of a certain left wing ilk.

Ditto Nina Myskow and that bloke who used to edit the Spectator

zanahoria · 30/05/2025 07:52

As a couple have others have mentioned before she really is rude.

I watched back to count how many times she interrupted. She did it once to Andrew and then to Jeremy in the first two minutes. Then she does it again to Andrew and berates him with "can I finish" when he starts to talk.

I gave up after that

Bluebootsgreenboots · 30/05/2025 08:09

I started watching it - I thought it was pretty uncomfortable watching 3 middle aged white men complain about how disadvantaged they were. And I can well believe her point, that she has been paid less than male counterparts, which they completely dismissed. It’s just so unfortunate that she has latched on to the trans cause, thinking that she can further her own cause by ignoring biological reality.
His point about Lady Hale was well placed though.

zanahoria · 30/05/2025 08:25

I thought it was just one of those stupid TV debates where they deliberately polarise an issue . It has been happening a lot in this debate since Trump was elected and sidelines the many people who are gender critical but no fans of Trump.

hattie43 · 30/05/2025 08:26

She is an awful woman .

TheBlueUniform · 30/05/2025 09:14

GiveMeSpanakopita · 30/05/2025 07:39

YAB is another prime example of what I like to call the MCKEBNIs (Middle Class Kids Educated Beyond their Natural Intellect), who then gain undeserved platforms and positions of soft power due to the hoarding of social capital.

How art thee a hypocrite, Yasmin? Let me count the ways.

  1. Endless handwringing about American 'imperialism' without ever acknowledging the foul and rancid way in which women are treated in extreme Islamic theocracies;
  2. Endless complaints about Britain's involvement with slavery without ever mentioning a) that is was the tribal chieftains of West Africa who most enthusiastically ensured supply of slaves and b) we pretty much bankrupted ourselves ENDING the slave trade - for no other reason than we thought it morally right;
  3. Endless complains about the Tories without ever once mentioning her vast privilege and asset-rich familial wealth;
  4. Stood by India Knight and her rancid paedophilic partner. Enough said.

I really am fed up of poshos espousing the lefty omnicause and telling us great unwashed WC women what we should think and believe, whilst secretly piling up wealth on the backs of our disenfranchisement.

I'm sick of it. And I know I'm not the only one.

You certainly are not the only one! Great post.

lechiffre55 · 30/05/2025 09:31

GiveMeSpanakopita · 30/05/2025 07:39

YAB is another prime example of what I like to call the MCKEBNIs (Middle Class Kids Educated Beyond their Natural Intellect), who then gain undeserved platforms and positions of soft power due to the hoarding of social capital.

How art thee a hypocrite, Yasmin? Let me count the ways.

  1. Endless handwringing about American 'imperialism' without ever acknowledging the foul and rancid way in which women are treated in extreme Islamic theocracies;
  2. Endless complaints about Britain's involvement with slavery without ever mentioning a) that is was the tribal chieftains of West Africa who most enthusiastically ensured supply of slaves and b) we pretty much bankrupted ourselves ENDING the slave trade - for no other reason than we thought it morally right;
  3. Endless complains about the Tories without ever once mentioning her vast privilege and asset-rich familial wealth;
  4. Stood by India Knight and her rancid paedophilic partner. Enough said.

I really am fed up of poshos espousing the lefty omnicause and telling us great unwashed WC women what we should think and believe, whilst secretly piling up wealth on the backs of our disenfranchisement.

I'm sick of it. And I know I'm not the only one.

You know why people like this concentrate on demeaning the west while ignoring negative elements of other parts of the world. It's because we let them, and they'd just get laughed at, or worse, by the rest of the world. Not only do we let them, the left positively encourages it to the point that it's become a competitive sport.

When the US military shambolicly left Afghanistan under Biden one news clip really stuck with me. A female western reporter from a left wing channel with a camera crew was reporting live on the ground. There were a bunch of taliban with AK47s in a street causing minor chaos, and the reporters were doing a story around it. One of the taliban came over to the woman reporter and told her to get off the street and stand over on the pavement. She meekly obeyed without protest or comment and her head bowed. There was no decrying toxic masculinity, no uppity in your face response, no sass, no attitude, because she knew damn well in that part of the world women get treated as lesser, and when a man with an AK47 tells a woman what to do she better obey. The camera crew being there wouldn't have changed the man's behaviour at all. The taliban guy would have shot her without a second thought if he wanted to, and it being on film wouldn't change his behaviour or ensure justice afterwards. The very worst he would have faced for shooting her dead would be a minor telling off, and probably not even that.
Those who decry the west as being the worst place in the world, dare not criticise other parts of the world, especially making that criticism from the place they are criticising for fear of what would happen to them. And yet they can shout down the west to their heart's content from anywhere in the west with zero consequences. Maybe just maybe the west isn't quite as bad as they make out, and they seem in no hurry to leave.
There's an old saying. It's easy to be a communist if you don't live in a communist country.

TreesAtSea · 30/05/2025 09:39

GiveMeSpanakopita · 30/05/2025 07:39

YAB is another prime example of what I like to call the MCKEBNIs (Middle Class Kids Educated Beyond their Natural Intellect), who then gain undeserved platforms and positions of soft power due to the hoarding of social capital.

How art thee a hypocrite, Yasmin? Let me count the ways.

  1. Endless handwringing about American 'imperialism' without ever acknowledging the foul and rancid way in which women are treated in extreme Islamic theocracies;
  2. Endless complaints about Britain's involvement with slavery without ever mentioning a) that is was the tribal chieftains of West Africa who most enthusiastically ensured supply of slaves and b) we pretty much bankrupted ourselves ENDING the slave trade - for no other reason than we thought it morally right;
  3. Endless complains about the Tories without ever once mentioning her vast privilege and asset-rich familial wealth;
  4. Stood by India Knight and her rancid paedophilic partner. Enough said.

I really am fed up of poshos espousing the lefty omnicause and telling us great unwashed WC women what we should think and believe, whilst secretly piling up wealth on the backs of our disenfranchisement.

I'm sick of it. And I know I'm not the only one.

Yep, that just about covers it. Perfect post.

illinivich · 30/05/2025 09:41

Years ago she said she knows what racism is because she saw so much of it growing up in Uganda. Im sure she said that she recognising that she was racist herself.

I wonder if this has lead to her outsourcing all of her views to the 'woke' middle class? She doesnt trust herself to think independently?

GiveMeSpanakopita · 30/05/2025 09:44

lechiffre55 · 30/05/2025 09:31

You know why people like this concentrate on demeaning the west while ignoring negative elements of other parts of the world. It's because we let them, and they'd just get laughed at, or worse, by the rest of the world. Not only do we let them, the left positively encourages it to the point that it's become a competitive sport.

When the US military shambolicly left Afghanistan under Biden one news clip really stuck with me. A female western reporter from a left wing channel with a camera crew was reporting live on the ground. There were a bunch of taliban with AK47s in a street causing minor chaos, and the reporters were doing a story around it. One of the taliban came over to the woman reporter and told her to get off the street and stand over on the pavement. She meekly obeyed without protest or comment and her head bowed. There was no decrying toxic masculinity, no uppity in your face response, no sass, no attitude, because she knew damn well in that part of the world women get treated as lesser, and when a man with an AK47 tells a woman what to do she better obey. The camera crew being there wouldn't have changed the man's behaviour at all. The taliban guy would have shot her without a second thought if he wanted to, and it being on film wouldn't change his behaviour or ensure justice afterwards. The very worst he would have faced for shooting her dead would be a minor telling off, and probably not even that.
Those who decry the west as being the worst place in the world, dare not criticise other parts of the world, especially making that criticism from the place they are criticising for fear of what would happen to them. And yet they can shout down the west to their heart's content from anywhere in the west with zero consequences. Maybe just maybe the west isn't quite as bad as they make out, and they seem in no hurry to leave.
There's an old saying. It's easy to be a communist if you don't live in a communist country.

Yes, I agree, but the problem is that we have a generation coming out of our schools who believe it to be a matter of proven fact that the British Empire was evil (as opposed to possibly the most benign world empire ever known, certainly compared with Roman, Mughal, Zengid, Ming, Tang, French, Third Reich, Soviet, Ottoman - only possible exception imho is the Athenian Naval Empire); that sex is a spectrum; that US critical race theory applies in any sensible way to Britain, and a whole host of other empirically disprovable beliefs.

This is a problem because a culture which has no confidence in itself has no future. And we can see this in our declining birth rate, declining educational achievements, declining rates of successful business start ups, declining productivity, and declining mental health.

The very fact that pride in one's national history can be interpreted as being akin to bigotry or jingoism is a symptom of how much we've denigrated ourselves. Do we think Chinese children are told that Chinese history is a never ending litany of evil and prejudice? Japanese? Indians? Koreans? Mexicans? Poles (insert any other successful developing economy here)?

People like YAB may think they're terribly sophisticated due to their adherence to postmodernist and moral relativist beliefs, but what they are actually doing is actively harming confidence and intersocietal trust in our younger generations. And those younger generations will actively suffer, lose out and be impoverished by MCKEBNIs' supercilious and historically illiterate attitudes.

EdithStourton · 30/05/2025 09:53

@GiveMeSpanakopita
Excellent post, thank you.
I really am fed up of poshos espousing the lefty omnicause and telling us great unwashed WC women what we should think and believe, whilst secretly piling up wealth on the backs of our disenfranchisement.
Spot on. And they boss about lesser MC women too (ones who have come up from underneath and want better chances for their DC than they had, ones who didn't have stellar careers for whatever reason). One of my SILs, who married serious money, does my fucking head in. The champagne socialism and virtue-signalling preaching is wildly hypocritical.

Like you, I am sick of the constant traducing of the West. I have lived in a couple of dictatorships, including one where a family friend ended up bumped off by the ruling party for having Wrong Opinions, and a personal friend was chucked into chokey for a spell for the same reason.

That makes you value democracy, free speech and the rule of law.

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