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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Tallisker · 24/05/2025 00:11

I left my union as I knew full well they wouldn’t help me if I got into bother at work. Although I may rejoin if there’s evidence they continue to see the light (PCS)

Enough4me · 24/05/2025 00:17

It's great she's holding them to account. She was right, needed support and they sided with the group who loudly lie.

Conxis · 24/05/2025 00:35

Oh wow what a woman!
I really hoped Sandie would feel strong enough to do this. RCN let her down badly when she needed them most. What’s the point of paying union fees for years if they refuse to support you when your employer is breaking the law. Her union should have had her back and they just cut her adrift.
Happy to contribute if gardening is needed but I think sandie has a backer who will see her ok

BiologicalRobot · 24/05/2025 00:46

Awesome news.

Hopefully other unions will start reflecting on how badly they are treating women, morally as well as legally.

NumberTheory · 24/05/2025 01:05

It would be great to get Unions held to account for their utter contempt for women’s rights.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 24/05/2025 01:32

Davros · 23/05/2025 23:12

Nothing’s changed, the Unions always were for white men

Not always. But yes for a long time. I have posted on here occasionally about how my wonderful granny went to a Labour conference, late 40's - and the members knew what the outcome of a soon to be held election would be. Not great, and I believe she left the party soon after.

SinnerBoy · 24/05/2025 01:46

This is very good news indeed! I suggested this, as well as for at least Jo Phoenix, if I recall correctly. The various unions who joined in with the bullying and hounding of women actively broke their contracts.

It's not a passive case, where they told them that their cases weren't viable, but were generally sympathetic. I too hope she gives them a richly deserved kicking.

Ottersmith · 24/05/2025 03:55

Unions have never cared about women. Women stood on the picket lines and supported their partners, then when they asked for help, the Unions told them to be quiet. Nothing new.

orangegato · 24/05/2025 06:23

I hope she takes them to the cleaners. There will be no money and only whiny genderwangers left paying subs. Delicious.

WarriorN · 24/05/2025 06:36

I wonder if the new JK fund will be used?

MsGoodenough · 24/05/2025 06:47

This is great news. I attended a 'Unions for Trans rights' meeting last night, and it was exactly how you would imagine it to be. We were encouraged to join the 'Flowers for Beth's campaign and colour in some flowers to send to Beth Upton. I am a Union Rep and I stay as we are very strong in my school, but I'm appalled at the way they've thrown women and girls under the bus.

Needspaceforlego · 24/05/2025 06:49

Sandie Peggie what a legend. She really is going down in the history books 📚.

Best of luck to her ( her lawyers and her absolutely amazing backer).
Thank-you for your courage and determination 💪

What an absolute heroine!

Theroadt · 24/05/2025 07:01

MsGoodenough · 24/05/2025 06:47

This is great news. I attended a 'Unions for Trans rights' meeting last night, and it was exactly how you would imagine it to be. We were encouraged to join the 'Flowers for Beth's campaign and colour in some flowers to send to Beth Upton. I am a Union Rep and I stay as we are very strong in my school, but I'm appalled at the way they've thrown women and girls under the bus.

You are having your cake and eating it, if you are a union rep but purport to disagree with their treatment of women - you are surely part of the problem if you stay in that position, no?

Conxis · 24/05/2025 07:08

WarriorN · 24/05/2025 06:36

I wonder if the new JK fund will be used?

I suspect she’s the first recipient and leading the way for others to follow.
Or a total coincidence both announced on the same day!!

MsGoodenough · 24/05/2025 07:09

Because of me my school union didn't back a trans policy of social affirmation and mixed sex changing in my school. Without being Union rep I wouldn't have had the platform to convince others of the harm such a policy would cause. I will be speaking against a motion supporting mixed sex changing at my local Branch meeting. If I quit, it would likely pass unopposed. I'm aware it's an uneasy compromise but I am happy with my choices.

Helleofabore · 24/05/2025 07:22

MsGoodenough · 24/05/2025 06:47

This is great news. I attended a 'Unions for Trans rights' meeting last night, and it was exactly how you would imagine it to be. We were encouraged to join the 'Flowers for Beth's campaign and colour in some flowers to send to Beth Upton. I am a Union Rep and I stay as we are very strong in my school, but I'm appalled at the way they've thrown women and girls under the bus.

WTAF! Unions supportting a male who has very deliberately used female people’s single sex spaces knowing that it caused distress? particularly in light of the SC clarification?

WarriorN · 24/05/2025 07:31

Conxis · 24/05/2025 07:08

I suspect she’s the first recipient and leading the way for others to follow.
Or a total coincidence both announced on the same day!!

It would make a lot of sense given that JK has been so supportive of FWS.

WarriorN · 24/05/2025 07:32

MsGoodenough · 24/05/2025 07:09

Because of me my school union didn't back a trans policy of social affirmation and mixed sex changing in my school. Without being Union rep I wouldn't have had the platform to convince others of the harm such a policy would cause. I will be speaking against a motion supporting mixed sex changing at my local Branch meeting. If I quit, it would likely pass unopposed. I'm aware it's an uneasy compromise but I am happy with my choices.

Omg - is that a school union saying you should be supporting the right if a man to access female spaces??

Merrymouse · 24/05/2025 07:40

Theroadt · 24/05/2025 07:01

You are having your cake and eating it, if you are a union rep but purport to disagree with their treatment of women - you are surely part of the problem if you stay in that position, no?

On the contrary, any committee is run by the people who turn up. It’s why the BMA expressed such odd views on sex.

Obviously many people genuinely don’t have time to go to meetings and voting on changes to article 5c on how many members are required for a quorum if it’s a leap year is boring.

But the only way to change things is to turn up.

DuchessofReality · 24/05/2025 07:47

Excellent. Now we need someone to challenge Unison and the NEU.

Igmum · 24/05/2025 07:49

Well done Goodenough and yes we need more GC people in these spaces

HarrietofFire · 24/05/2025 07:49

Thank you Sandie Peggie. The unions have been complicit in all of this. I’ve left mine partly because I know they do not represent me. I was part of a small union but the LGBT contingent seemed to have the loudest voice. In retrospect I think that this was the most active subset of the union because it was welcoming, social and fun. Unlike the disability and what is still referred to as BAME interest groups. It’s led to over representation of LGBT interests in the workplace in my profession and the size of the subgroup has given it greater access to policy making within the organisation. I fully support lesbian, gay and transgender people being represented and heard within the union but in mine, the rainbow lanyards overwhelmed the rest.

It really didn’t matter when this group was focused on sexuality but the dominance of the trans and non-binary lobby has had such a negative and detrimental impact on the voices of women in my old union. I was terribly sad to leave but it simply didn’t represent me anymore.

IllustratedDictionaryOfTheDoldrums · 24/05/2025 07:52

Excellent news. Let's hope her payout is so huge that the unions finally get a wake up call and start supporting their female members.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 24/05/2025 07:54

Well done and thank you @MsGoodenough Wishing you every success protecting girls against this dangerous union motion.

dustydvd · 24/05/2025 07:55

Tallisker · 24/05/2025 00:11

I left my union as I knew full well they wouldn’t help me if I got into bother at work. Although I may rejoin if there’s evidence they continue to see the light (PCS)

I am about to cancel my PCS union membership.

bloody useless union.