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India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'

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frazzled1 · 20/05/2025 21:05

https://x.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1924912102063345706

India not happy with JKR drawing a line. Very aggressive.

Jo, you are bitter and twisted. A modern-day Miss Havisham. Bought court. You know it - I know it. I will always be more of a woman than you. The way you and your ghastly gang pretend to be the voice of all women is disgusting. And a joke. Along with the fact your daily sick bullying of women is completely ignored by UK media. You represent the Gender Critical movement - not women. I hope your boat sinks. Go fuck yourself. Trash.

India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'
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MarieDeGournay · 22/05/2025 22:56

1MnaAthCliath · 22/05/2025 20:19

you appear a little upset. foot-stampy, even.

take a breath, read it again, this time with a wider lens, possibly including a sprinkling of humanity and think back at the history of what we endured as women to reach where we are today.
You, and others, destroy our legacy by applying the same oppression that was used against us, now to another group of people. Becasue thas what TRANS are in the end: people. like you, like me. imperfect people trying to find the best way to live, according to their experience.
Who are we to police them?

Now that's just silly!

There is no similarity between 'what we endured as women to reach where we are today' - centuries of struggle - and the speed with which a tiny percentage of the population gained a puzzling amount of power over the legislature [notably in Ireland where there was zero scrutiny of the GRA and self-ID, it was waved through with the omnipresent assistance of TENI], the media, the medical profession, the educational establishment, language itself..

Who are we to police them? We are the women. The ones whose rights, and very identity, which we 'endured as women' to fight for over the centuries, have been appropriated by men who are not satisfied with their own rights as men, as transgender people, but have gone after ours too.

Defending our own rights and our own identity is not 'applying oppression' to anyone .

To transwomen, their rights and no more; to women, our rights and no less - cothrom na Féinne. That's fair, isn't it, a bhean Átha Cliath?

BunfightBetty · 22/05/2025 23:41

1MnaAthCliath · 22/05/2025 20:19

you appear a little upset. foot-stampy, even.

take a breath, read it again, this time with a wider lens, possibly including a sprinkling of humanity and think back at the history of what we endured as women to reach where we are today.
You, and others, destroy our legacy by applying the same oppression that was used against us, now to another group of people. Becasue thas what TRANS are in the end: people. like you, like me. imperfect people trying to find the best way to live, according to their experience.
Who are we to police them?

In what way are trans people being oppressed? What rights do they not have that other people do?

mintbru · 22/05/2025 23:47

Jonathan once rather amusingly posted a video of himself dancing. I assume he imagined he looked very womanly but his body is entirely and obviously male, there is nothing feminine about him. Just because he's a man suffering from delusions and a persecution complex doesn't make him a women and he know it which is why he gets so angry at women telling him no.

Even look at his famous celeb big brother moment "I am a real woman" if you watch it he points at himself when saying "I am" and then as he says "a real woman" he points at an actual woman, not himself at all. He knows exactly what he is, he's a father for ffs!

CigarettesAndLoveBites · 23/05/2025 00:06

Other people also have rights and needs, and that includes women.

This. It's not all about your male entitlement as TW.

DefineHappy · 23/05/2025 00:11

sanluca · 22/05/2025 20:42

Did you mean your post to read so condenscending? Who are you to tell women that part of their job description is to strip off in the presence of their male coworkers?

Yes, yes he did.

Must be rage-provoking that no one is falling in line.

Datun · 23/05/2025 10:53

you appear a little upset. foot-stampy, even.

Who are we to police them?

God, I know these people like trying to stick it to women, at the same time as telling them what to do. But it never ceases to amaze me why they think it would work??

Reducing themselves to playground level to insult women is every TRAs only line. It's as tedious as it is predictable.

i've kind of answered my own question, tho, they're not looking for a result, they just like doing it.

But I have to say, doing it to an audience of 12 million women when they're demanding access to the spaces of those very same women is probably not their best move.

Again.

Greyskybluesky · 23/05/2025 11:47

mintbru · 22/05/2025 23:47

Jonathan once rather amusingly posted a video of himself dancing. I assume he imagined he looked very womanly but his body is entirely and obviously male, there is nothing feminine about him. Just because he's a man suffering from delusions and a persecution complex doesn't make him a women and he know it which is why he gets so angry at women telling him no.

Even look at his famous celeb big brother moment "I am a real woman" if you watch it he points at himself when saying "I am" and then as he says "a real woman" he points at an actual woman, not himself at all. He knows exactly what he is, he's a father for ffs!

I've just watched that BB clip again for old time's sake.

Love how Amanda Barrie says to IW "you can't keep being temperamental!" and then gives him A LOOK. Carry on Cleo! 👏

LarkLaneAgain · 23/05/2025 15:40

@MarieDeGournay I see what you did there!
To transwomen, their rights and no more; to women, our rights and no less - cothrom na Féinne. That's fair, isn't it, a bhean Átha Cliath?

Someone's been reading lavvy doors in Dublin Bars, and it's deffo not you.

SabrinaThwaite · 23/05/2025 21:56

Today’s ‘trans apartheid’ filmed-in-the-car teary video was after a trip to the gym / sauna / pool.

I wonder if the leisure facility has followed the SC ruling and IW had been directed towards either the men’s or a third space.

teawamutu · 23/05/2025 22:41

SabrinaThwaite · 23/05/2025 21:56

Today’s ‘trans apartheid’ filmed-in-the-car teary video was after a trip to the gym / sauna / pool.

I wonder if the leisure facility has followed the SC ruling and IW had been directed towards either the men’s or a third space.

Does he go into any detail about the latest dreadful infringement of his male privilege human rights?

GoodWorkSally · 23/05/2025 22:54

Oh my goodness! I could only watch the first 10 minutes before I felt my head beginning to explode.

Gaslighting!! He accused GC people of gaslighting!!

Also, claimed 84% of lesbians supported transwomen. How many transwomen lesbians does that include, I wonder?

Also, saying with this ruling we're going back to the 1950s. Yes!! We are!
The 1950s when this ridiculousness would have been knocked on the head and given short shrift.

teawamutu · 23/05/2025 22:57

GoodWorkSally · 23/05/2025 22:54

Oh my goodness! I could only watch the first 10 minutes before I felt my head beginning to explode.

Gaslighting!! He accused GC people of gaslighting!!

Also, claimed 84% of lesbians supported transwomen. How many transwomen lesbians does that include, I wonder?

Also, saying with this ruling we're going back to the 1950s. Yes!! We are!
The 1950s when this ridiculousness would have been knocked on the head and given short shrift.

The first ten minutes?

How long was it? How little does he have in his life?

Boston365 · 23/05/2025 22:59

India’s narcissistic rage at not getting his own way and not being validated by everyone knows no bounds.

GoodWorkSally · 23/05/2025 23:21

India’s narcissistic rage at not getting his own way and not being validated by everyone knows no bounds

He's in la-la land. He's been in circles that have so far not dared to question.
Send him to my local pub in Leeds and they'd soon have his measure.
Don't get me wrong. People would be polite. But he wouldn't get in the Ladies loo without somebody tapping him on the shoulder.

NextRinny · 24/05/2025 06:35

GoodWorkSally · 23/05/2025 22:54

Oh my goodness! I could only watch the first 10 minutes before I felt my head beginning to explode.

Gaslighting!! He accused GC people of gaslighting!!

Also, claimed 84% of lesbians supported transwomen. How many transwomen lesbians does that include, I wonder?

Also, saying with this ruling we're going back to the 1950s. Yes!! We are!
The 1950s when this ridiculousness would have been knocked on the head and given short shrift.

Ah so the "genocide" angle isn't working since no one is dropping off like flies, and, the predicted violence never occurred.

So he's got a new bandwagon, apartheid. I wonder what comes next once the realisation that "the men's"is actually a welcoming space hits?

Is this like the 5 stages of grief?

BlueEyedBogWitch · 24/05/2025 07:29

Does he realise how fucking offensive it is to use words like ‘genocide’ and ‘apartheid’ over something like this?

Has he been to Auschwitz? Visited the Kigali Genocide Memorial in Rwanda? Jesus, has he even pulled his head out of his arse for long enough to watch Shindler’s List? Has he read The Long Walk To Freedom?

Read a book, India. Look outwards. There’s a whole fucking world of pain out there, that people did not opt into.

It’s offensive enough to ‘identify’ as a woman, but to ‘identify’ as a victim of genocide is a whole other level of offensive.

Poor Ann Frank never even made it to womanhood. He should read her diaries. Not a word of hate, spite, or self-pity.

She died at 15, but she was more of an adult than he’ll ever be.

ThatCyanCat · 24/05/2025 08:01

Does he realise how fucking offensive it is to use words like ‘genocide’ and ‘apartheid’ over something like this?

No and he wouldn't care if he did. It's full on narcissistic rage. As JKR has said, he thinks everything on earth is about him. He has said that she set up Beira's Place purely to exclude trans people. The idea that she created an additional service to meet the needs of traumatised women who had no appropriate service and were compelled to self exclude from the only one available, is beyond him. It's not to provide a much needed service for women. It's because of him. I'm reminded of the time my father absolutely insisted that my siblings and I got our piercings and tattoos purely to annoy him. Not because we liked and wanted them. It was all about him. India, like him, simply cannot comprehend that anyone might do something that isn't in fact about him.

And that includes heinous crimes against humanity. He is the centre of the world and everything must relate to him somehow. That's why he thinks he's owed affirmation by everyone, everywhere he goes. Interestingly, like my father it's actually a sign of incredibly poor self esteem. He can't feel secure in his own self image so he has to force everyone else to go along with it and when they don't they are the most evil beings it's possible to be. Hateful, bigoted, genociders, Nazis.

Utterly deranged.

forgotmyusername1 · 24/05/2025 10:50

It in interesting with India. He blocks everyone from twitter who disagrees with him apart from JKR - he is the joker to JKR's batman (from the lego movie). Without JKR to fight he is nothing...and he knows it

Greyskybluesky · 24/05/2025 11:37

Without JKR to fight he is nothing

This is so true. The level of stalking is beyond disturbing.

ThatCyanCat · 24/05/2025 12:04

He's actually nothing with her to fight as well.

I do sometimes feel he really isn't worth her time, but I guess it's her time to do as she pleases with, and it is bloody funny.

BezMills · 24/05/2025 12:38

It kind of feels like punching down - he's so outmatched it almost makes him kind of pathetic (in the original sense of the word)

But then you see what he's like and how much he actually thrives on the attention and you realise he's getting what he wants out of his relationship with JK

Hell mend him

WallaceinAnderland · 24/05/2025 13:44

So he's got a new bandwagon, apartheid. I wonder what comes next once the realisation that "the men's"is actually a welcoming space hits?

He's reached a new low. He's suggested that if men are banned from women's toilets muslims should be banned from all flights. Because they pose the same risk.

Maaaate

India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'
India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'
India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'
SirChenjins · 24/05/2025 14:01

He’s completely lost it.

WallaceinAnderland · 24/05/2025 14:05

I was shocked. Even from him, I would not have expected that.

CapitalAtRisk · 24/05/2025 14:08

He appears to have forgotten to put his orange foundation on in that clip.

Been at the red wine again, J?