Good Law Project suing the EHRC and Bridget Phillipson - letter before action

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Sorry if this has already been shared - here are the links to their letter and statement. Looking forward to the Mumsnet analysis :-)

https://goodlawproject.org/were-bringing-a-legal-challenge-to-the-ehrcs-interim-update

https://goodlawproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Letter-to-the-Equality-and-Human-Rights-Commission-16-May-2025_Redacted.pdf

They are such utter fuckwits!! The amnesty lawyer was trans and the supreme court is not a fucking school debating society

Literal LOL.

As I understand it, 2 individual trans people were denied the right to tell their personal stories - it's the Supreme Court not a consciousness raising session. But for some reason not a single trans lobby group (and god knows, there's enough of them) chose to apply to be interveners. Unlike the LGBA, Amnesty International, the Lesbian Project ..

Somehow this is the SC's fault?

Absolutely! and that's one TRA-related campaign I wouldn't mind helping with

Oh my goodness me, I am lost for words.

I’m not sure what GLP are arguing here - the EHRC Interim Guidance says that men’s and women’s facilities in the workplace must be single sex, unless they meet the requirements to be unisex? Which reflects Section 20 of the Workplace Regs.

It sounds like they are going for the definition of sex to only apply to the EqA 2010 and not to any other legislation which also uses the terms ‘men’ ‘women’ and ‘sex’ (although the Sex Discrimination Act must surely recognise sex not gender?).

Interveners also not allowed unless they're going to add something not yet mentioned or not heard before.

It's been repeatedly explained, over and over. It doesn't go in, they identify as it being true and that a few sad anecdotes would have meant the judges embraced destroying women's, lesbian and gay and trans identified women's rights for them.

Its like the inquiry into the Green Party safeguarding disaster where they had to say: there is not the capacity to understand the situation, how it works or anything beyond their own perspective. Also see the relationships board and Issendai's 'Missing missing reasons' - it isn't lack of information or explanation, it's an inability to take on board that information.

https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons.html

"Many members truly can't remember what their children said. Anything tinged with negative emotion, anything that makes them feel bad about themselves, shocks them so deeply that they block it out....This emotional amnesia shapes their entire lives, pushing them to associate only with people who won't criticize them, training their families to shelter them from blows so thoroughly that the softest protest feels like a fist to the face."

I assume the Good Law Project would have had the same opportunity to intervene?

The amnesty lawyer was the wrong kind of trans.

Born female.

Of course - ironic isn't i?. Presumably Jollyon was so busy talking with his favoured shit hot lawyers who'd told him FWS had no change of winning, he decided there wouldn't be an issue.

FAFO innit. 😁

The Sex Discrimination Act was superseded by the Equality Act along with all the other equality legislation.

Yes - I notice there's only a certain kind of trans person projected onto the building. Hint: it's the men.

The implication is that the supreme court have made some random 'decision' with which they vehemently disagree. The truth is, however, that the supreme court undertook a process of thorough logical analysis of the legislation to determine the meaning of 'Sex' and. 'Woman' as used in the Equalities Act.

The ruling was very long, detailed and thorough, and all of the thinking was clearly spelled out and tested using real life cases and situations.

Just been reading some of Grin's writing and the TKDB pages for the first time.

I am flabbergasted at how utterly deranged and manipulative it is. If they genuinely believe what they have written then they have thoroughly lost touch with reality. If not, then it is incredibly sinister.

I don't think kids should be online unsupervised. It's clearly not good for them.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Thank you for making me laugh. 🙏

Not GLP but a different form of ‘fight back’

www.thenational.scot/news/25171035.trans-women-protest-topless-outside-scottish-parliament/

Yeah, statutory interpretation is usually very dry, but it's at the core of what the Supreme Court does. This was always going to be mostly a matter of going through a big and complex bit of legislation and saying "if we interpret 'woman' to mean X the law makes sense, if we intepret it to mean 'Y' we get perverse consequences".

Which isn't to say that real world examples aren't relevant. The arguments about lesbian associations having the ability to exclude men obviously had persuasive power in the judges concluding that the certificated sex interpretation would have perverse consequences.

But a trans intervention would have had to be equivalent to to that. It's pure magical thinking to assume that the judges would have come to an opposite conclusion if they'd taken an hour to listen to trans people saying they were sad.

I think it really is a capacity thing. They're just not able to comprehend that the law doesn't support the version of reality in their heads.

I’m sure I started to read ‘An Open Letter’ thread on here this morning 🤔 but can’t find it now. Has it been deleted?

You are quite right. The "Grin" quoted in this thread is Maugham's eldest daughter who here says one of her two younger sisters has now also come out as trans. https://x.com/Wonkypolicywonk/status/1858807094918426886

SionnachRuadh It's pure magical thinking to assume that the judges would have come to an opposite conclusion if they'd taken an hour to listen to trans people saying they were sad.

Very funny😂

Yes it as deleted. It was one of those goady threads with a dodgy link and an OP who made "threats" about how many dormant Mumsnet accounts they had.

He must know the criteria for intervening in cases. He defended the SC when they were being called enemies of the people in matters of prorogation and Brexit against the Tory Government. But now he's waging a trolling campaign against them that ill befits a legally qualified person. I am legally qualified and if there's one thing you learn it is that you weigh up the legislation and decided cases and advise your clients of risk accordingly. He should switch full time into activism as he's an embarrassment to the bar.
I watched the YouTube video of the LSE presentation by Naomi, Akua, Ben Cooper and Sarah Vine. I really recommend it but it is almost 2 hours. They speak in measured terms and point out areas where the judgment doesn't apply. No hyperbole, just legal clarity.
Contrast with the fox botherer and I just think he's had too long in the limelight but I'm clear that he's more like a sixth former than a KC.

I’m surprised he’s still able to practise. It’s activism as you say.

I mean I don't object to Jolyon having a midlife crisis but I can't help thinking it would have been better for all concerned if he'd just bought himself a leather jacket and a sports car.

I was wondering about that too.

It was a pretty sustained take-down of the content of the letter, but that wasn't difficult, it was a target-rich environment for picking apart.

I don't recall anything personal against the signatories, it was mostly just a generalised 'what a load of misogynistic buck-eejits they must be to produce this'.