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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
JazzyJelly · 11/05/2025 13:50

He wasn't talking about any of her other views though. He objects to a woman saying women deserve single sex spaces.

EweSurname · 11/05/2025 13:51

Do you think he was right to say shut up to a woman fighting for her rights? Even if you disagree with her stance, surely she should be able to participate and not just “shut up”?

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/05/2025 13:54

No, I don’t think anyone should be told to shut up. Everyone has a right to an opinion.

teawamutu · 11/05/2025 13:58

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 13:34

Maybe not a 'bad person'

But definitely a tone deaf sexist.

However you want to cut it.

And a shit parent and distinctly quiet on the several male abusers he's had a professional association with.

TheignT · 11/05/2025 14:39

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/05/2025 13:46

What’s her skin colour got to do with anything? KB holds very unpleasant views about many things, all of which some people are prepared to overlook because of her stance on women’s rights.

Very true.

TheignT · 11/05/2025 14:41

EweSurname · 11/05/2025 13:51

Do you think he was right to say shut up to a woman fighting for her rights? Even if you disagree with her stance, surely she should be able to participate and not just “shut up”?

But what has her colour got to do with it? Are white women less entitled to a view, ok to shut them up?

EweSurname · 11/05/2025 14:55

I didn’t mention her colour. I’m asking if it’s acceptable for a man to tell a woman to shut up for talking about her rights, even if he disagrees with her point of view.

2024onwardsandup · 11/05/2025 15:02

His wife’s entire identity (as presented online) is that she’s his wife. Super weird dynamics.

i used to think he’d be a nice bloke - but now I think his ego has been unleashed

teawamutu · 11/05/2025 15:10

2024onwardsandup · 11/05/2025 15:02

His wife’s entire identity (as presented online) is that she’s his wife. Super weird dynamics.

i used to think he’d be a nice bloke - but now I think his ego has been unleashed

Being an actress in her own right didn't exactly take off, did it?

2024onwardsandup · 11/05/2025 15:12

teawamutu · 11/05/2025 15:10

Being an actress in her own right didn't exactly take off, did it?

I feel kinda sorry to her to be honest - I followed her for a while on insta but it was all so focussed on him and her being his plus one - rather than her as an individual.

mind you - I imagine she’d probably feel sorry for me if she knew me 😂

but I do suspect it’s one of those relationships where they have brought out the worst in each other rather than the best.

TheignT · 11/05/2025 15:12

EweSurname · 11/05/2025 14:55

I didn’t mention her colour. I’m asking if it’s acceptable for a man to tell a woman to shut up for talking about her rights, even if he disagrees with her point of view.

No not you but it was in the post about him telling her to shut up and some of us couldn't see why her colour was brought into it.

SionnachRuadh · 11/05/2025 15:13

teawamutu · 11/05/2025 15:10

Being an actress in her own right didn't exactly take off, did it?

I wouldn't say she's disappeared exactly, but I find it hard to think of anything she's been in since marrying DT that isn't DT or Doctor Who centric.

DworkinWasRight · 11/05/2025 15:17

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/05/2025 13:46

What’s her skin colour got to do with anything? KB holds very unpleasant views about many things, all of which some people are prepared to overlook because of her stance on women’s rights.

He told her to shut up because she was speaking up for women’s rights. That tells you everything about the man.

Her colour is relevant because white people have historically had, and continue to have, power over Black people. A white man telling a Black woman to shut up is enacting that power.

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 15:21

SionnachRuadh · 11/05/2025 15:13

I wouldn't say she's disappeared exactly, but I find it hard to think of anything she's been in since marrying DT that isn't DT or Doctor Who centric.

She married her Dad.

TheignT · 11/05/2025 15:22

DworkinWasRight · 11/05/2025 15:17

He told her to shut up because she was speaking up for women’s rights. That tells you everything about the man.

Her colour is relevant because white people have historically had, and continue to have, power over Black people. A white man telling a Black woman to shut up is enacting that power.

She was speaking as a woman, nothing to do with her colour. Laughing at the power of an actor against the leader of the Conservative party.

JazzyJelly · 11/05/2025 15:28

Hooray, racism is over because a black woman is successful! White people no longer have systematic advantages over black people, TheighnT has sorted it!

RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2025 16:38

TheignT · 11/05/2025 15:22

She was speaking as a woman, nothing to do with her colour. Laughing at the power of an actor against the leader of the Conservative party.

Of course he has power. He has male privilege and white privilege, and also the privilege of being a celebrity with a high public profile who has been given a platform. The fact that Badenoch is leader of a political party doesn't alter that.

NImumconfused · 11/05/2025 16:58

RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2025 16:38

Of course he has power. He has male privilege and white privilege, and also the privilege of being a celebrity with a high public profile who has been given a platform. The fact that Badenoch is leader of a political party doesn't alter that.

Plus she wasn't actually Tory party leader at the time.

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TheignT · 11/05/2025 16:58

RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2025 16:38

Of course he has power. He has male privilege and white privilege, and also the privilege of being a celebrity with a high public profile who has been given a platform. The fact that Badenoch is leader of a political party doesn't alter that.

It does mean she isn't some powerless person against his vast power.

TheignT · 11/05/2025 17:03

JazzyJelly · 11/05/2025 15:28

Hooray, racism is over because a black woman is successful! White people no longer have systematic advantages over black people, TheighnT has sorted it!

Grow up. The implication that telling the leader of a powerful political party to shut up is somehow worse than telling a powerless woman regardless of colour is pathetic. No woman should be told to shut up, equal for them all, if you don't believe that then shame on you.

Tomatotater · 11/05/2025 17:03

TheignT · 11/05/2025 16:58

It does mean she isn't some powerless person against his vast power.

It's still not a good look for a White man to be telling a Black woman to ' shut up' in public, and have all the clapping seals rattling their jewellery in approval around him. To not even engage with the debate is dismissive in the extreme. Also see him telling women to ' get out of the way' and let trans people do what they want without any pushback.

TheignT · 11/05/2025 17:04

NImumconfused · 11/05/2025 16:58

Plus she wasn't actually Tory party leader at the time.

Oh God was she only a minister in His Majesty's government? Oh yes totally powerless.

TheignT · 11/05/2025 17:06

Tomatotater · 11/05/2025 17:03

It's still not a good look for a White man to be telling a Black woman to ' shut up' in public, and have all the clapping seals rattling their jewellery in approval around him. To not even engage with the debate is dismissive in the extreme. Also see him telling women to ' get out of the way' and let trans people do what they want without any pushback.

It isn't a good look for any man to be doing that to any woman. This has nothing to do with colour unless someone wants to do a bit of virtue signalling.

Wonder if he's going to win his BAFTA.

SionnachRuadh · 11/05/2025 17:10

Be that as it may, he's like a lot of self-consciously right-on men. Probably imagines he's a great ally to women, but that's belied by the anger you see when he encounters a woman who says no.

FlakyCritic · 11/05/2025 17:26

mrstrickland · 10/05/2025 18:43

Why is Mumsnet so weird? David Tennant is an utterly brilliant actor and a thoroughly nice human being. Just because his views don't align with your own does not make him a bad person.

Do you not know what he said about Kemi? That if he had his way she wouldn't exist. Have a think about that for a moment. All because she defended womens rights. He has also attacked JK and wants her to shut up about feminism.

This is NOT about 'different views', this is about his vile hateful and aggressive misogyny and the way he speaks to women. @mrstrickland

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