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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lloyds bank tripling down

118 replies

Twoshoesnewshoes · 08/05/2025 12:39

Just in case we weren’t clear on their stance…

Lloyds bank tripling down
Lloyds bank tripling down
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BundleBoogie · 08/05/2025 17:14

godlikeAI · 08/05/2025 15:42

This really is nonsense and a non problem. Having worked in big organisations like Barclays for decades, I have literally never experienced anyone remotely male-seeming trying to use the women’s loos. I honestly think the idea that anyone can use any loos based on how they identify, is pretty much made up to rile people - especially in the corporate world

also, how will anyone enforce this? Toilet police?

It’s always a bit weird when people claim that because something hasn’t happened directly to them, it never happens at all.

What else haven’t you done @godlikeAI ? Have you been to the moon? Or up Everest? If not then I’m guessing no one else has been to the moon either by your rules. How very ego-centric.

If we really are just making things up and no woman has ever encountered a man in the ladies than I’m sure there will be widespread relief. Sadly though, it has happened to too many women here already so your theory couldn’t be more wrong.

LesMisSaigon · 08/05/2025 17:16

Oh that's brilliant, how refreshing!
More power to Lloyds.

ThisOpenMauveLurker · 08/05/2025 17:23

More power to Lloyds? The bandwagon jumping ‘allies’ who lend to companies involved in illegal Israeli settlement activities?

“Lloyds Bank receives a low score in several of our research categories. Its low rating in the Responsible Investment Policy criterion comes as a result of its investment in numerous unethical industries and businesses. This includes funding or lending to companies with links to North sea oil exploration, coal power, illegal Israeli settlements and nuclear weapons.”

thegoodshoppingguide.com/brand-directory/lloyds-bank-mortgages/#:~:text=Its%20low%20rating%20in%20the,Israeli%20settlements%20and%20nuclear%20weapons.

GreenFriedTomato · 08/05/2025 17:28

I honestly think the idea that anyone can use any loos based on how they identify, is pretty much made up to rile people

This is the best part. A made up idea?

I once lived in the middle of nowhere and spent quite some time without access to media. As a result I was pretty unaware of what was going on in the rest of the world.

However, you'd think that someone who has worked in a bank for decades and presumably is part of mainstream society, would be aware that 'using the toilet you feel most comfortable in/aligns with your gender identity' has been policy in hospitals/universities/workplaces/recreational facilities for years 🤔

LondonPapa · 08/05/2025 17:31

MaggieBsBoat · 08/05/2025 13:07

Well Barclays have issued advice that they are now enforcing male and female toilets for their staff in line with the law, which has caused a furore online (understandable) so maybe Lloyds are just slow on the uptake.

Barclays don’t give a flying fuck about equalities, the environment etc. - they just want to make money. They do very well not caring, and only pretending when they must for the people to give them money. I find it astounding Lloyd’s, and others, are unable to play the game until they can ditch the nonsense - which is hopefully be soon!

BunfightBetty · 08/05/2025 17:32

ThisOpenMauveLurker · 08/05/2025 17:23

More power to Lloyds? The bandwagon jumping ‘allies’ who lend to companies involved in illegal Israeli settlement activities?

“Lloyds Bank receives a low score in several of our research categories. Its low rating in the Responsible Investment Policy criterion comes as a result of its investment in numerous unethical industries and businesses. This includes funding or lending to companies with links to North sea oil exploration, coal power, illegal Israeli settlements and nuclear weapons.”

thegoodshoppingguide.com/brand-directory/lloyds-bank-mortgages/#:~:text=Its%20low%20rating%20in%20the,Israeli%20settlements%20and%20nuclear%20weapons.

Hear that sound? That’s the sound of all the Omnicause sheep's minds being blown, as they wonder how they can support ‘Free Palestine’ AND ‘TWAW’ through banking. 🤯

Merrymouse · 08/05/2025 17:34

TransAlly · 08/05/2025 15:02

Here’s a question for you all. As an employer, if someone complains to me about a trans woman or man or trans man using the “wrong” bathroom, how do I know? How do you know? Their employment records etc will be in their given name. I’m not going to ask them to undress. I’m more likely to give the complainant a friendly warning about harassment without evidence. Soz.

As an employer, it's your responsibility to comply with Health and Safety Legislation.

In most cases your employee's tax records will correctly state their sex.

I agree that employers need clear guidance on how to approach this subject, but your approach doesn't comply with the law.

Szygy · 08/05/2025 17:38

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/05/2025 14:37

I've been watching repeats of Dad's Army this week. I miss the days when banks were run by people like Captain Mainwaring.

Dad’s Army 2025: Pike says his pronouns are zie/zir/zem and Mainwaring replies disgustedly with ‘stupid boy!’

I’d pay good money to see that.

GreenFriedTomato · 08/05/2025 17:40

@ThisOpenMauveLurker
More power to Lloyds? The bandwagon jumping ‘allies’ who lend to companies involved in illegal Israeli settlement activities?

They might want to pause before taking
'We❤️our trans allies Lloyds' placards out on protests then. They might clash with the Trans4Palestine signs.

Edit: Cross post with @BunfightBetty

BunfightBetty · 08/05/2025 17:43

GreenFriedTomato · 08/05/2025 17:40

@ThisOpenMauveLurker
More power to Lloyds? The bandwagon jumping ‘allies’ who lend to companies involved in illegal Israeli settlement activities?

They might want to pause before taking
'We❤️our trans allies Lloyds' placards out on protests then. They might clash with the Trans4Palestine signs.

Edit: Cross post with @BunfightBetty

Edited

Great minds!

Tripleblue · 08/05/2025 17:50

TransAlly · 08/05/2025 15:02

Here’s a question for you all. As an employer, if someone complains to me about a trans woman or man or trans man using the “wrong” bathroom, how do I know? How do you know? Their employment records etc will be in their given name. I’m not going to ask them to undress. I’m more likely to give the complainant a friendly warning about harassment without evidence. Soz.

Oh you will know and you know you will know

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/05/2025 18:05

Szygy · 08/05/2025 17:38

Dad’s Army 2025: Pike says his pronouns are zie/zir/zem and Mainwaring replies disgustedly with ‘stupid boy!’

I’d pay good money to see that.

Grin
Whereismyjoiedevivre · 08/05/2025 19:17

That photo of the man with the huge knife and threatening words has turned my stomach.

TheOtherRaven · 08/05/2025 19:27

TransAlly · 08/05/2025 15:02

Here’s a question for you all. As an employer, if someone complains to me about a trans woman or man or trans man using the “wrong” bathroom, how do I know? How do you know? Their employment records etc will be in their given name. I’m not going to ask them to undress. I’m more likely to give the complainant a friendly warning about harassment without evidence. Soz.

As an employer, you have a legal duty to maintain the protections of your female employees to have single sex spaces, and to prevent your male employees, however they identify, from trampling those protections.

Sexism, such as trying to turn a pre emptive blind eye to pressure women into having men in their spaces or making other arrangements when they need the loo, isn't legal. You will, obvs, need to ensure that any male employees with trans identities have accessible facilities they can use, and all your staff are aware that the workplace is compliant with the SC judgment.

Best also check how your insurance stands if a female employee takes legal action for your not ensuring that your male employees don't break those protections of the women employees, and not fulfilling your legal obligations as an employer, and harassing them with 'friendly warnings' when they protest their legal protections being breached. Claims that you 'couldn't tell' aren't likely to go very far.

Soz.

JanesLittleGirl · 08/05/2025 21:47

TransAlly · 08/05/2025 15:02

Here’s a question for you all. As an employer, if someone complains to me about a trans woman or man or trans man using the “wrong” bathroom, how do I know? How do you know? Their employment records etc will be in their given name. I’m not going to ask them to undress. I’m more likely to give the complainant a friendly warning about harassment without evidence. Soz.

Taking EqA 101 will probably help you to avoid those pesky and expensive Employment Tribunal defeats.
Soz

SidewaysOtter · 08/05/2025 22:15

I’m more likely to give the complainant a friendly warning about harassment without evidence.

@TransAlly, we all look forward to observing/crowdfunding the complainant in the ensuing employment tribunal. Good luck - you're going to need it.

As for Lloyds, FFS. How about you just provide somewhere to keep my money, a mechanism by which to pay it to other people and some interest when I let you use it while I'm not. We don't need the virtue signalling, the Progress flags and all the other wankery. Just be a fucking BANK.

I've only recently moved back to Lloyds after giving up on the Coop. Off to look at Barclays accounts.

Puttinginthemiles · 08/05/2025 22:44

In the 90s, I was attacked by my then H, causing injuries leaving me unable to work for 6 months. Then he almost destroyed our home in a fire

I had a small child, no income, no home and no possessions. He left me with all his debt and a credit rating on the floor. I went into our local Barclays and the manager said not to worry, he would make sure that I could have a mortgage, as much as I needed to house DC and me. And he stuck to his word. Bless him.

That's the sort of thing that banks should be doing - supporting customers in need, not pratting about with bloody flags.

healthybychristmas · 08/05/2025 23:25

Looks like that Philip Bunce who worked at credit suisse and went for businesswoman of the year - some days he would go to work as Philip and some days as Philippa - has gone to work for Lloyds now.

Darkgreendarkbark · 09/05/2025 05:17

healthybychristmas · 08/05/2025 23:25

Looks like that Philip Bunce who worked at credit suisse and went for businesswoman of the year - some days he would go to work as Philip and some days as Philippa - has gone to work for Lloyds now.

Actually, turns out Pips has left Credit Suisse... To start an EDI consultancy called Humility Hub! Seriously. Humility Hub. We are not worthy...

GreenFriedTomato · 09/05/2025 05:59

He's well known for posting creepy things and threatening women on his Facebook page.
He appears to have a trans male partner and at one point was advertising a spare room in his house.
Looking for a young lesbian woman to move in and join them as a 'thruple' Not a transbian though. No chance. An actual young female lesbian.
I can't imagine there were many takers.

Edit- but then again some poor vulnerable homeless woman could get taken in. Horrific thought

GreenFriedTomato · 09/05/2025 06:01

Whereismyjoiedevivre · 08/05/2025 19:17

That photo of the man with the huge knife and threatening words has turned my stomach.

Forgot to quote this in my reply ^^

TheKeatingFive · 09/05/2025 06:20

So which of the big wigs transed a child?

Or is a cross dresser? 🤔

healthybychristmas · 09/05/2025 07:34

Darkgreendarkbark · 09/05/2025 05:17

Actually, turns out Pips has left Credit Suisse... To start an EDI consultancy called Humility Hub! Seriously. Humility Hub. We are not worthy...

Humility hub! That's really made me laugh. I remember watching a program on that man and I have never seen so many handmaidens in one room at the same time.

Laidbackluke · 09/05/2025 21:30

Twoshoesnewshoes · 08/05/2025 12:39

Just in case we weren’t clear on their stance…

Feminists led the way in all of this by demanding brands be allies to women. Others have just followed the example set before them.

Personally I don't want my bank, broadcaster, clothing brand etc to try and force a political agenda down my throat.

Life was a lot better when Tesco wanted to sell me eggs rather than re educate me.