Sturgeon: SC ruling risks making trans lives "unliveable"

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/06/transgender-peoples-lives-at-risk-of-being-made-unliveable-says-nicola-sturgeon

“It certainly doesn’t make a single woman any safer to do that because the threat to women comes from predatory and abusive men.”

You don't get it, do you Nic love? I don't have enough eye-rolls for the idea that trans-identified men are never predatory or abusive, especially in the face of so much evidence to the contrary.

"The former first minister and SNP leader added that it is not “inevitable” that the judgment will make the lives of transgender people “impossibly difficult”, but there was a “danger” that certain interpretations could put transgender rights at risk."

What rights? The SC ruling clarified the law as it is and always has been, which is that trans people don't have the right to treated as if they were the opposite sex. Or does she just mean "It's really unfair that they're going to have to abide by the same rules as everyone else rather than demanding special privileges"?

Good point.

If as enthusiastic a trans ally as NS is saying that now that the highest court in the land has simply reasserted a basic truth about what a woman is, which most people believed all along, trans lives may be 'unliveable', trans lives aren't built on a very firm foundation, are they?

There is no firm foundation. All is built on a consensual, mass delusion which can fracture at any point.

Signs of Collective Delusion in the Workplace

Lack of Open Dialogue: If team meetings are characterised by silence or nodding heads despite apparent concerns, collective delusion may be at play. This indicates an environment where dissent is not welcomed or is actively discouraged.
Overemphasis on Consensus: When reaching an agreement becomes more important than critically evaluating ideas, the group is at risk. Decisions should be based on thorough analysis, not just on getting everyone to agree.
Ignoring Red Flags: Dismissing obvious signs of trouble—like missed deadlines, unexplained data, or repeated mistakes—can be a strong indicator of collective delusion.
Pressure to Conform: If team members feel pressured to agree with a dominant opinion or fear retribution for speaking up, the group is likely suffering from collective delusion.

"In George Orwell's 1984, Winston Smith grapples with the Party's concept of "wrongthink" (also known as thoughtcrime) and its related techniques like doublethink and crimestop. Winston's resistance to the Party's ideology leads him to consider these concepts and to attempt to develop a blind spot to avoid unwanted thoughts, a practice known as crimestop. Doublethink, in particular, highlights the Party's ability to hold two contradictory beliefs simultaneously, and Winston initially struggles to reconcile his own thoughts with the Party's propaganda.

Doublethink

Definition: The ability to simultaneously hold two contradictory beliefs as true.
Party's Use: The Party uses doublethink to control the population's minds and ensure conformity.
Winston's Struggle: Winston grapples with doublethink, initially struggling to reconcile his own rebellious thoughts with the Party's ideology.

Crimestop

Definition:
An instinctive desire to rid oneself of unwanted, incorrect thoughts, which would lead to detection by the Thought Police.
Winston's Practice:
Winston attempts to practice crimestop, training himself to ignore thoughts that contradict the Party's teachings.

Thoughtcrime

Definition: Any thought that is deemed subversive or rebellious against the Party.
Winston's Experience: Winston engages in thoughtcrime by writing in his diary and expressing his doubts about the Party.
Consequences: Thoughtcrime leads to punishment by the Party.

Winston's internal struggle with wrongthink, particularly doublethink, and his attempts at crimestop highlight the Party's pervasive control over thought and the individual's ability to resist it"

Remind me, who is the poster who used to identify as Nicola Sturgeon in these conversations…@REALFEMINIST or something like that. I want her IN CAPS PLEASE NIC observations. They were usually worthwhile!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5324655-ahm-no-duckin-anyhin

RealFeminist was in recently.

That poster prefers broadcast-only mode and never takes on any new information or evidence presented by posters here on MN. It’s baffling to see someone come to a discussion board and then repeat the same points over and over and never actually discuss 🤷‍♀️

God she’s thick. Embarrassed for the whole population of Scotland that this was once your leader.

Oft but then there's a lot of it about cough Three Word Bozo

Oft but then there's a lot of it about cough Three Word Bozo