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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BMA beclowning themselves over the SC judgement

155 replies

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 17:55

Guess the TRA are still all over the committee then!

did they finish their review of Cass yet?

BMA beclowning themselves over the SC judgement
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ACynicalDad · 27/04/2025 17:56

Hahaha, maybe someone will need to take them to court in the end.

TheOtherRaven · 27/04/2025 17:57

Scientifically illiterate... in the same way that Cass was all wrong for.. er, reasons... or something.

We're going to have to have that court case to prove that sex is binary, with a judgment posted in very very small words. Possibly pictures. And a quiz at the end.

MoltenLasagne · 27/04/2025 17:57

Please tell me that there is another BMA and that this isn't the actual British Medical Association making complete fools of themselves.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 18:02

apparently It was passed at the BMA conference yesterday

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Datun · 27/04/2025 18:03

Omg. I hope that gets splashed across the front of the papers.

The bloody BMA!!!

Disorders of sexual development exist, so biological sex is nonsensical??

it's so fucking embarrassing.

Did they take a poll to come up with that opinion?

PriOn1 · 27/04/2025 18:04

I wish this madness would pass. It’s too depressing that it has taken over so many groups.

peanutbuttertoasty · 27/04/2025 18:05

How are the BMA funded I wonder? 🤔

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 18:05

PriOn1 · 27/04/2025 18:04

I wish this madness would pass. It’s too depressing that it has taken over so many groups.

Isn’t it just?

it’s like whack a mole! Every institution has got a couple of loud TRA in positions of influence

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Igneococcus · 27/04/2025 18:05

"any identity assigned to them at birth"
Is that a new phrase they just made up?

rebmacesrevda · 27/04/2025 18:07

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 18:02

apparently It was passed at the BMA conference yesterday

Do you have a link to the document?
This is really shocking. Even the language used is woefully ignorant for an org that represents doctors. I do not believe for a second that the majority of their members support this garbage.

spannasaurus · 27/04/2025 18:09

It was the BMA Resident (junior) Doctors Conference this weekend so not the whole BMA membership.

Didn't the Cass Review review get abandoned due to BMA members complaining

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 18:12

rebmacesrevda · 27/04/2025 18:07

Do you have a link to the document?
This is really shocking. Even the language used is woefully ignorant for an org that represents doctors. I do not believe for a second that the majority of their members support this garbage.

I’m trying to find link to conference motions but the page appears to be down on the website

it’s all over social media - X (general response wtf?) Bluesky (general response yaaay) and no one so far is saying it isn’t true

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ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 27/04/2025 18:13

I am so so tired of this. We have the impregnators and the impregnees, determined by your genitalia, and we all know how it can go wrong. So even if there were to suddenly arise some previously undiscovered indiciae of biological sex which is mysterious annd invisible it would be of no relevance whatsoever to the design of public policy aimed at protecting the members of the impregnee class.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 18:13

spannasaurus · 27/04/2025 18:09

It was the BMA Resident (junior) Doctors Conference this weekend so not the whole BMA membership.

Didn't the Cass Review review get abandoned due to BMA members complaining

Well that’s a small comfort I suppose!

i know hundred of doctors did write & say “fgs think again” but I don’t know if they did

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theDudesmummy · 27/04/2025 18:14

Oh FFS this is embarrassing. I left the BMA about a year ago after having been a member for over 30 years, Very glad I did.

Datun · 27/04/2025 18:15

it’s all over social media - X (general response wtf?) Bluesky (general response yaaay) and no one so far is saying it isn’t true

I can understand people thinking that maybe TRAs might have some influence, because of the wholesale meltdown of having to use toilets of their own sex, but saying biological sex is nonsensical??

I mean, if they were trying to come up with any kind of argument, any kind of argument at all, that really isn't the one to choose 🤣

rebmacesrevda · 27/04/2025 18:17

Definitely needs to get in the papers, if it's real.

I hope it's not real! It's insane. The whole thing is a denial of the acquired knowledge of medical science over centuries. What in God's name is wrong with these people? Any doctor believing this crap is not fit to practise.

WolfFoxHare · 27/04/2025 18:34

For gods sake! Why do so many pressure groups not understand that the Supreme Court doesn’t need to listen to ‘stakeholders’, and indeed shouldn’t listen to pressure groups when interpreting the law?! It’s like playing pigeon chess. These people are idiots.

Datun · 27/04/2025 18:39

WolfFoxHare · 27/04/2025 18:34

For gods sake! Why do so many pressure groups not understand that the Supreme Court doesn’t need to listen to ‘stakeholders’, and indeed shouldn’t listen to pressure groups when interpreting the law?! It’s like playing pigeon chess. These people are idiots.

I hope when the final guidance is published these questions are addressed unequivocally.

That no amount of people saying they don't like it means it isn't law.

NextRinny · 27/04/2025 18:39

This undermines my trust in medical professionals.
Do TRAs actually trust surgeons who have such low ethical and moral codes with complex surgeries?
Sounds exactly like medical professionals who will experiment on whoever is available...

guinnessguzzler · 27/04/2025 18:41

Oh god, they're doctors, actual doctors. It honestly makes me die a little reading that. It is so embarrassing and so very concerning. Frankly it is no surprise we ended up with the Sandie Peggie case given this bunch of absolute twerps.

LonginesPrime · 27/04/2025 18:41

It’s almost as if some people’s careers depend on holding up the house of cards for as long as humanly possible, against all odds…

rebmacesrevda · 27/04/2025 18:44

NextRinny · 27/04/2025 18:39

This undermines my trust in medical professionals.
Do TRAs actually trust surgeons who have such low ethical and moral codes with complex surgeries?
Sounds exactly like medical professionals who will experiment on whoever is available...

Some of the surgeons are TRAs. It's like a pyramid scheme FFS.

EweSurname · 27/04/2025 18:47

I can’t wait until the EHRC start ensuring the law is applied as it is, and not how people want it to be.

LonginesPrime · 27/04/2025 18:49

Also, if they actually had any confidence in the science, why would they suddenly be so concerned that the EA should be amended to reflect their theories on gender?

A professional doctor should be able to recognise the difference between a definition used for legal purposes in a statute and a medical, scientific definition - the two don’t need to match verbatim, so this is a super-strange take.

Presumably, they’re fine with the word “transsexual” being used to define every trans person covered by the PC of gender reassignment in the EA, on the basis that’s a legal definition as opposed to a medically accurate one, so it sounds like someone needs to explain to them how legal definitions in a statute work.