BMA beclowning themselves over the SC judgement

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Guess the TRA are still all over the committee then!

did they finish their review of Cass yet?

FFS! No mention of women and theirs rights to get protected again. Hopefully the main organisation may act with actual science and lawfulness. Won't hold my breath though. 😡

This doesn't surprise me many Dr are deeply embedded in this with no real proof to back up what they have been doing and I think many are scared. An old friend of mine was actually the lead Dr at the gender clinic in my city, sadly we aren't close anymore as I was banished for being too uncool and having GC views like we shouldn't be giving kids puberty blockers or cross sex hormones.

This friend of mine who was up until this point a good doctor just loved the cache they felt they obtained in certain circles from being involved in this work, loved flying off to present on trans healthcare. This is someone who is highly intelligent but also deeply unthinking and very much seduced by anything they felt was cool or edgy. Perhaps not really the mentality you want in a doctor!

Anyway for the past year they have slowly been trying to extract themselves from this line of work and distance themselves from the whole thing. I suspect their is real fear of consequences coming down the line for doctors who provided these kinds of "treatments" especially in regards to very young women and girls.

The SC ruling shows which way the wind is blowing and it must be terrifying to some of these Doctor's the BMA represents.

I'm genuinely concerned about doctors who don't understand what sex is and why we define it.

Do vets have the same problem?

This explains why sex is binary in 5 mins. It's very clear and includes info re dsd's

https://x.com/zaelefty/status/1916184746431836369/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1916184746431836369&currentTweetUser=zaelefty&mode=profile

I am genuinely concerned that qualified doctors can make statements like this and claim to represent the profession.

From the statement, the argument is not just that it's impossible to draw conclusions about sex because there are very rare anomalies - the anti-vax argument - but that medicine should not be evidence based.

I think the GMC should be providing reassurance that this is not representative.

Doctors! Fucking doctors!

I'm so done with this competitive stupidity.

I think they just don't step back and consider why we define sex.

Or perhaps they advise their patients that anyone could have a period or become pregnant.

@Merrymouse I'm sure it was said by one clinic that a frequent question was that after "transition" many young people believed they would be the opposite sex and be able to father a child if they were female and that males would be able to become a biological mother to a child.

I don't understand how teenagers can get to that age and not understand that this would be impossible. Perhaps the Science curriculum needs to be looked at and any gender woo fairy stories that have crept in removed.

Nobody has ever gone through male and then female puberty. This person X is lying.

"Perhaps the Science curriculum needs to be looked at and any gender woo fairy stories that have crept in removed."

my sister made this point at the weekend

I can't think about this too much because it makes my head explode. I'm so impressed with all the women who have fought this battle. But I still need an explanation for how we got here.

I really thought this was going to be fake. I haven't had a chance to look on X this morning, wondering if there's any official confirmation from any sources.

Fake News.

If not - we are all in deep danger from the medical profession. Surely the Minister/Health Secretary can intervene to uphold the law or something, anything, please.....

It's because people think about sex in terms of identity and status, and forget that it has practical consequences.

'Man' is the default, and his role in sexual reproduction is limited to having a shag.

'Women' is the anomaly and LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU FINGERS IN EARS THAT ALL SOUNDS YUCKY BABIES ARE BROUGHT BY A STORK STOP GOING ON ABOUT YOUR RIGHTS

Can you check if a doctor is a memeber of the BMA? I wouldn't take the advice of any of these medics seriously. I think I'd rather see the vet

I wouldn't have thought so. It's effectively their trade union and membership of a union is private information.

By doctors paying £38 a month. I'm a member but will leave as soon as I don't need their help to sort my pension out. They are a shambles

You can't but they have some very useful services they offer us as well as the rubbish. I'm still waiting for my pension to be sorted with respect to the McCloud review so I'm staying because of that only then I'm out. It's a shame because they are a great source of information, employment guidance and have supported doctors in difficulty but since the pandemic they have changed for the worse. They also have some brilliant educational courses so I wouldn't say being a member means the doctor is bad but we need an alternative

The fact the only outlet that has picked this story up is Pink News, with their source being a twitter thread that doesn’t @ the BMA (it only says #BMA) suggests it’s probably fake.

Other outlets have had plenty of time to verify it by now, and it would be an amazingly lucrative story to break, so I doubt it’s real.

That said, perhaps the BMA is scrambling behind the scenes after a call from the Times to find out exactly what meetings the junior doctors were holding and what the hell they have done.

So I guess it’s amusing either way, really.

I have just had a look. You are doing a sterling job of countering some pretty batshit statements. The levels of cognitive dissonance are off the scale. It really illustrates how adherence to an ideology can cause people to depart from the ability to think critically. Prof Louis Appleby, a government advisor on suicide is anti-trans. Jesus wept 🙄

And it is so depressing how willing women are to give away other women's rights.

I think you are right.

No comment from the BMA twitter account, which is much more focused on physician associates.

No one has been through two puberties. A person with a Y chromosome is a man.

Reported now in The Times https://archive.ph/FrFqa

Oh for fuck’s sake. Didn’t the push back we gave about the Cass report lunacy tell them anything? Are we going to have to threaten mass resignations again?

One step forward, two steps back.

Sound late like the motion will be voted on by the whole BMA in June?

I (GP) mentioned this to my BMA-member colleague (an actual GP, not a resident dr, not young) at work today in a “have they lost their minds?” kind of way and when I read out the motion he told me that it sounded reasonable to him. I think he mainly thinks that he has no skin in the game. He’s never been very supportive of my openly feminist/GC stance at work but I’m tolerated - I didn’t realise he’d actually drunk the koolaid though. Very strange times we live in.