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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Memories of the last few years of madness

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SuperSleepyBaby · 20/04/2025 13:12

There have been so many issues over the last few years with trans rights clashing with women’s rights… its been fascinating, in a bad way.

some that come to mind:

A man photographed breastfeeding a newborn in a bus - and being used by the BBC to represent mothers for a story

A man running a rape crisis centre while saying he’s a women and telling women users of the service to ‘reframe their trauma’

a man saying he’s a women and being appointed to head a charity for endometriosis.

Male police officers who say they are women being allowed to strip search women.

What else…

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SidewaysOtter · 20/04/2025 22:23

vandelier · 20/04/2025 16:04

The suppression of speech, and the often violent intimidation of women speakers at Let Women Speak rallies.

God yes, walking past screaming protestors, some of whom were holding banners with guns on them, and the sheer number of police required to keep them away from women who wanted to talk amongst ourselves.

Emily Bridges wanging on about a “genocide” on Instagram because he’d been banned from cycling in the women’s classes.

SidewaysOtter · 20/04/2025 22:43

Oh, have we had David Lammy’s infamous quote about women being dinosaurs hoarding our rights?

MistyGreenAndBlue · 20/04/2025 22:52

Drag Queen Story Time. Twerking for the kids 🙄

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 20/04/2025 23:00

NeverOneBiscuit · 20/04/2025 15:35

India Willoughby on Celebrity Big Brother.

He had a massive tantrum because the female housemates were reminiscing about their teenage years. Apparently they were excluding him. Although given he’s a male who fathered a child I’m unsure how he thinks his teenage years were comparable to the womens.

Following that, his cesspit of a Twitter account, & his declaration on Question Time that he was a biological woman.

And then massaging his moobs in front of if the mirror like all women do. 🙄🙄

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/04/2025 23:06

The school holiday library event for young children that featured a man dressed as a monkey with exposed genitals, nicely described here:

Writer Janice Turner wrote: “I would really love a detailed breakdown of the commissioning process whereby Redbridge council commissioned the Rainbow Dildo Butt Monkey as a means to teach children to read.”

Redbridge Council - latest news, breaking stories and comment - The Standard

Latest London news, business, sport, showbiz and entertainment from the London Evening Standard.

https://www.standard.co.uk/topic/redbridge-council

BingBongSong · 20/04/2025 23:36

Bradley.
Madigan.
Harrop.

Just awful times.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/04/2025 23:52

MistyGreenAndBlue · 20/04/2025 22:08

I thought it was the NSPCC who told women who objected that they were homophobic. Then it turned out the guy was straight.

I think both did.

GreenFriedTomato · 21/04/2025 00:01

SidewaysOtter · 20/04/2025 22:43

Oh, have we had David Lammy’s infamous quote about women being dinosaurs hoarding our rights?

Along with the poetry books I purchased the dinosaur pin to celebrate this week. I have a feeling the seller may be on here somewhere 😃

Szygy · 21/04/2025 00:19

We never found out what happened to the male student union officer who also posted selfies showing him having fun at work behind his desk, when unfortunately he'd forgotten to put anything on below the waist

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g in a very surreal turn of events, that same person now appears to be part of a mushroom-related collective (I kid you not) - 'twas on a thread here not long ago and some sharp-eyed person spotted him. If it is him, he’s not 'presenting', as they say, in his former persona any more.

As for recollections of the madness of the last few years - what about Sally Hines tweeting that 'before the Enlightenment, the female skeleton didn’t exist' - leading to this glorious cartoon riposte (with the late Deborah Orr in the thread too)…..

Memories of the last few years of madness
lcakethereforeIam · 21/04/2025 00:30

Talking of poetry. The two volume Under the Duvet of Darkness edited by our own dear @BoiledBeetle and Grimbut Gerbil's t-shirt factory 😃

Clownfish!

Heggettypeg · 21/04/2025 00:31

Have we had the beastly little brats who wasted the lives of crickets to disrupt a LGB meeting? So Kind of them.

SerafinasGoose · 21/04/2025 00:33

Riley Gaines barricading herself into a room whilst a baying mob of TRAs threatened her outside.

The picture of Lia Thomas looking enormous alongside his comparatively diminutive female competitors.

Emily Bridges disingenuously claiming he’d been banned from competition as a cyclist.

Kate Davies having her knitting business destroyed whilst being harassed almost beyond endurance.

M&S egregiously allowing the fetishists’ reviews on their website about the lingerie they’d tried on in their changing areas - and those reviews had passed moderation.

Alice Roberts bullying a younger academic on Twitter on the basis of her position as a professor, not the substance of her arguments, then closing off her profile on the pretext that she’d been the target of misogynistic bullying. The only bully in operation on that thread was her, and she didn’t like it when this was pointed out.

AliasGrace47 · 21/04/2025 04:13

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I very much hope that we do not move from defending women's rights to attacking lesbians' rights.

I am familiar with Faust's arguments. It is incorrect to say she grew up 'without a dad' entirely - it is documented that he moved to live only 30 minutes away and she saw him a great deal.

Yes, it is very sad her parents divorced due to her mum's sexuality, but most children of divorce live w their mother and not their father.It is misleading of her to portray her experience as prime evidence for why gay parenting is wrong, as the experience of someone whose mother divorces her father and then lives w someone else is v different from someone who is born into a lesbian family & never experiences divorce & disruption.

I myself am bisexual, if I had a family w a woman I would want the biological father to be v involved, ideally an already close friend. I have read much of Faust' website & I sympathise w children who have been denied contact w a bio mum or dad bc they were raised by a same sex couple.

GreenFriedTomato · 21/04/2025 04:38

lcakethereforeIam · 21/04/2025 00:30

Talking of poetry. The two volume Under the Duvet of Darkness edited by our own dear @BoiledBeetle and Grimbut Gerbil's t-shirt factory 😃

Clownfish!

Those were the ones 😃

AliasGrace47 · 21/04/2025 04:53

IButtleSir · 20/04/2025 18:50

I don't think anyone is claiming that a child can have two biological parents of the same sex, only two legal parents of the same sex.

Why didn't Katy Faust's dad stick around and continue to be her parent when his wife left him for a woman, I wonder? And I wonder why that's the example that springs to your mind, given the sheer number of children who are growing up without their biological father due to that father's decision to fuck off and abandon their children?

(I don't actually wonder, of course; I've seen enough of your posts on MN to know it's good old-fashioned homophobia.)

He actually remained an involved father, 30 minutes away and still a close friend of her mother. Faust often obfuscates this but at other times admits it. There is also evidence that she misrepresents studies on same sex parenting theconversation.com/factcheck-qanda-was-katy-faust-correct-on-same-sex-family-studies-and-kids-rights-46257
Faust is dubious in other areas : she supported Exodus International's gay 'conversion therapy', Her stance on divorce & abuse is also very worrying, and she misrepresents research on it.
https://lifesavingdivorce.com/thembeforeus/

Book Review: “Them Before Us” by Katy Faust and Stacy Manning | Life-Saving Divorce

The good, bad, and ugly I really wanted this book to be good. It's got some insightful points, but I would never give it to an abuse victim.

https://lifesavingdivorce.com/thembeforeus/

Gettingbysomehow · 21/04/2025 04:55

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/04/2025 23:06

The school holiday library event for young children that featured a man dressed as a monkey with exposed genitals, nicely described here:

Writer Janice Turner wrote: “I would really love a detailed breakdown of the commissioning process whereby Redbridge council commissioned the Rainbow Dildo Butt Monkey as a means to teach children to read.”

WT actual F 😮

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/04/2025 05:31

Thanks to everyone who's reported on Jess Bradley's re-emergence as Mushroom Man. Sounds like a ... wait for it ... Fun Guy! (I'm here all week.)

IButtleSir · 21/04/2025 06:40

SidewaysOtter · 20/04/2025 22:43

Oh, have we had David Lammy’s infamous quote about women being dinosaurs hoarding our rights?

Also, David Lammy claiming he couldn't possibly be sexist because he's black.

IButtleSir · 21/04/2025 06:50

wrongthinker · 20/04/2025 19:18

Ha! I'd forgotten about the fascist baby!

"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy."

I mean, she may have been onto something... The sections I've put in bold sound like a lot of babies I know!

Sskka · 21/04/2025 06:52

Thanks for this thread. I've been consciously stepping back on the trans stuff the past couple of years, largely because it had become obvious that the war was going to be won – but also because I was getting worried that I was starting to look deranged, like going on at length would look stupidly disproportionate compared to the number of other problems in life.

But no! It really was everywhere. It was every fetishist and do-gooder in the land shovelling this crap in our faces, for years and years and years. So often, and so often literally, at our own expense. It's galling to see the 'tiny numbers, why do you care so much?' line again in response to the judgment and know that it will—still—resonate with a lot of people.

I've often wondered at tales of outlandish behaviours from yesteryear, like tulip mania or laughing sickness. Did those things actually happen? How prevalent could they possibly have been? What was it like?Could an actual society really behave like that? I wonder a bit less now.

clarabenton · 21/04/2025 07:15

Someone needs to make a documentary about all of this, honestly. I’d contribute to a crowdfunder to cover costs. Though it would probably need to be a series of documentaries as you couldn’t fit all of the insanity into an hour and a half.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/04/2025 07:27

One of my favourite visual memories is the contrast between these two pictures taken around the time of the trial of the young scrote Tara Wolf who assaulted Maria MacClachlan in Hyde Park.

Memories of the last few years of madness
Memories of the last few years of madness
Namechangechanged · 21/04/2025 08:05

clarabenton · 21/04/2025 07:15

Someone needs to make a documentary about all of this, honestly. I’d contribute to a crowdfunder to cover costs. Though it would probably need to be a series of documentaries as you couldn’t fit all of the insanity into an hour and a half.

Oh yes please 🙏

wrongthinker · 21/04/2025 08:20

clarabenton · 21/04/2025 07:15

Someone needs to make a documentary about all of this, honestly. I’d contribute to a crowdfunder to cover costs. Though it would probably need to be a series of documentaries as you couldn’t fit all of the insanity into an hour and a half.

Hopefully these threads are being archived by the budding documentary makers!

giddyauntie123 · 21/04/2025 08:37

@Hwi No