Supreme court ruling

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/apr/16/uk-supreme-court-rule-legal-definition-woman

How do we think this is going to pan out? My feeling reading the piece is that the court is going to side with GC women.....hope so but we will see.

It is not about Gender, but about Sex. Sex is a protected category in the equalities act, and the ruling declares that Sex is biological, not certificated or self identified.

Most places do not have gender neutral facilities, they have single sex facilities Now there is clarity around what 'Sex' means this will be easier to enforce. There is nothing to stop organisations that want to create a third neutral facility from doing so, should they choose. This way everyone has their rights and their dignity protected.

what rights are they talking about?

Maya.

It’s not a conversation I’ll be having with her over social media, which is where she’s sadfacing about it.

Yes, funny how important it is to tell people that this is totally unimportant, there's nothing to see here, nothing to see, oh look over there, there's a squirrel ...😂

OMG I have just literally had this conversation with DH. Was listening to the news on BBC R2. Rather than talking to Women for Scotland who brought this case before the supreme court and the implications it has for women, no once again stand aside women the men need our reassurance, and they let the Amnesty guy talk about how we mustn't let this ruling allow discrimination against the trans community. I don't think I could roll my eyes further.

As always, the devil is in the detail. Forcing trans people into facilities that 'out' them or expose them to harassment and violence is morally and legally unacceptable. Any organisation that drafts policy that way is exposed to serious consequences. The most obvious option is to provide secure, private spaces (cubicles) that anyone can access.
Typically these things are driven by insurance companies, organisations do what their insurers demand to get the best premiums. Time will tell how that works out.

Jkr praising forwomenscotland

We're not still pretending, are we, that nobody knows which sex the vast majority of transwomen are? As I've said innumerable times, why would humans be the only mammals who can't reliably tell the sex of other adult members of their species?

Maya’s post.

Thank you, I hadn’t seen this yet!

I guess when you’re in an echo chamber and surround yourself with people who don’t dare to disagree, they give you an opinion you want to hear…. I can only imagine the type of people he chose to seek opinion from….

Thank you!

Watching BBC and like Sky it's always a 'trans man' wheeled out with their immediately obvious female voice. They always work for a 'trans charity' too. Funny how they never show the 6ft bloke in a dress in these interviews.

Gaslighting.

I just had a look at Helen Webberley’s account on Twitter. Her posts are beyond belief - what an absolutely vile woman.

This 💯

When I hear of violence against a transwoman, it’s almost always perpetrated by a man - either another transwoman or a homophobic man
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But gay men sometimes get harassed in toilets. Smaller weaker men do too. I don’t see why transpeople need to be a special case.

They didn’t seem to care when women were complaining about being scared, harassed and unsafe when males were permitted to use their facilities.

Just goes to show it’s one rule for men and another for women.

The Labour Women's Declaration:

I saw a post of hers early this morning and was open-mouthed. It's so blatantly obvious that she's worried about the money drying up. I don't know how she sleeps at night.

Well, I guess, now that the governments across Europe grow increasingly war crazed and start talking about the draft, they can‘t have men avoiding service on the grounds of donning lipstick and calling themselves women.

I am sorry. I‘m genuinely happy about this ruling. I have just lost all trust in ‚our’ institutions. (I‘m from Continental Europe, so you may find it a transgression to lump them all together, and I may misjudge the situation as far as it relates to the UK.)

Anyway, a good day for women and for sanity at last.

Which of course is what women have been saying since the start of this dangerous nonsense. Compelling women & girls to undress in front of unknown men exposes them "to harassment and violence & is morally and legally unacceptable". Yet that didn't stop transactivists or any of the useful idiots parading as politicians and leaders from doing precisely that.

Which is why this is an excellent and clear judgement for women and decent men. Single sex spaces for women of the cunty kind are legal and permissible and sad men will have to be provided for elsewhere.

Forcing trans people into facilities that 'out' them or expose them to harassment and violence is morally and legally unacceptable

Women and their spaces are not here to validate a lie, or provide a human shield for male violence.

‘What they're saying is just misleading and untrue.’

Quelle surprise, all they ever do is say things that are misleading and untrue.

@AccidentallyWesAnderson @Chariothorses and others re: police stuff, I've just written to the Police and Crime Commissioner in my area on this, might be an idea to do the same for yours.

I wrote to him (and all the other candidates) last year when he was elected and a) he was the only one who wrote back, which shocked me because really, how much correspondence from voters do PCC candidates get?? and b) he said he wanted to address all these issues, from data recording to searches to single sex accommodations in stations for both police and the public. But that it was really hard, because of College of Police and other government guidance, and as PCC he would push for clarity and new guidance on the basis of sex not gender.

I've just written to him again (he got elected, probably thanks to my sole vote as no one votes in PCC elections) to remind him and ask him how this will change his stated goals and that if men can be legitimately excluded from a space or a duty eg. searching women, this now means transwomen can also be excluded even if they have a GRC.

The law has just declared that 'Sex' is biological and that 'women' refers to biological females. The Equalities act makes provsion for facilities that are predicated on sex. Women have rights too.....in case you hadn't noticed...and in some instances that means in spaces that are free from male people...whether or not they have a GRC.

It is up to you to campaign for discrete facilities and services for thiose with trans identities...you can't just gegg in on another group's provsion or ride roughshod over the boundaries of that group. That would be morally and legally unacceptable.

Thanks, and great effort from you. I’m in Scotland though, are you referring to Scotland or England?