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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scottish Greens being sexist again

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fromorbit · 12/04/2025 11:38

With Sparkles no longer a member other male Scottish Greens have had to step up to continue their terrible reputation. They are doing their bit.

Scottish Greens council candidate claimed JK Rowling was a Holocaust denier and said trans rapist Isla Bryson was a woman
Exclusive: Eryn Browning has been chosen by the Scottish Greens to contest a by-election in Clydebank Waterfront but offensive historic posts have resurfaced.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-greens-council-candidate-claimed-35039831?int_source=nba

There is hope the Scottish Greens might plunge into civil war after their conference. Patrick Harvie is standing down as leader but Slater is standing again and there is opposition over her elitist behaviour.
https://archive.is/ESYZg

Scottish Greens council candidate claimed JK Rowling was a Holocaust denier

Exclusive: Eryn Browning has been chosen by the Scottish Greens to contest a by-election in Clydebank Waterfront but offensive historic posts have resurfaced.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-greens-council-candidate-claimed-35039831?int_source=nba

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Turtlesgottaturtle · 24/05/2026 18:44

ArabellaScott · 20/05/2026 17:24

As ever, urban people have little idea what rural life is like.

This isn't about "rural life". It's about villages, towns and cities. Where I live, everyone has gas central heating and we don't get significant power cuts, but a very large number of people have added a wood burner, and the number is growing. For some with access to cheap wood it may be about cost saving, but installing a wood burner isn't cheap, so I suspect that for very many people it's largely a lifestyle choice. And you are urging everyone to get a wood burner - not just people in isolated rural areas.

You may not open your car window and breathe in smoke when you drive through a village (or a town). The point is that if you are in a village or town in Scotland in the spring, winter or autumn you will breathe in smoke. The inhabitants of those villages and towns are living in a smoke-filled environment, and that smoke gets into their homes. One wood burner apparently produces the same amount of emissions as 75 lorries. That is what we are all breathing in. And no, that smoke doesn't all miraculously disperse. The smoke goes up the chimney and emerges into the cold air. It very quickly cools down and sinks to the ground and is breathed in by the neighbours (and probably by the people who are producing the smoke, who are also breathing it in when they put wood on the fire, etc).

From the Guardian:
"The burning of wood and coal in homes contributes to almost 2,500 deaths a year in the UK, analysis has found. Stopping unnecessary burning would save the NHS more than £54m a year, the experts concluded.
Wood-burning stoves and open fires are one the biggest sources of small pollution particles, which cause heart and lung disease, and their use has risen in recent years. The report also links this toxic air pollution to 3,700 cases of diabetes and 1,500 cases of asthma a year, although the health impacts are likely to be underestimated.
More than 90% of people have other sources of heating and only about 10% of people say they burn at home out of necessity. Many use the stoves and fires for their aesthetic appeal."

More and more people are having these stoves installed, and of course many of the very serious conditions these particles cause take years to develop, so the number of deaths and serious health conditions will rise.

So how about looking at the science - looking at the truth of the situation as you do with gender issues, rather than saying - oh, it's probably a conspiracy theory, the research is probably funded by oil companies, I think I heard somewhere that their surveys weren't very big but I don't have time to check that now, oh what about isolated cottages in the Highlands, etc etc). The fact is that for whatever reason you really like woodburners, despite knowing that they create very harmful pollution. So you are denying, fudging, diverting, making things up. Because it suits your agenda.

Wood burners linked to 2,500 deaths a year in the UK, analysis finds | Air pollution | The Guardian

Emissions of air pollutants in the UK – Particulate matter (PM10 and PM2.5)

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/emissions-of-air-pollutants/emissions-of-air-pollutants-in-the-uk-particulate-matter-pm10-and-pm25

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2026 19:13

fromorbit · 24/05/2026 14:01

GREER TACTICS Scots Greens co-leader Ross Greer accused of ‘strong-arming’ council into flouting gender laws

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/16298670/ross-greer-accused-flouting-gender-laws/

Cheeky fucker.

Well done to the Ed director, though.

'The letter — sent from Mr Greer’s office last September — claimed it was “strange” that the local authority concluded it had a “legal obligation” to provide single-sex toilets.

The Greens boss also raised the case of a mum whose child had been “excluded” from a primary school’s sports day due to competition rules.

He asked the education boss: “Do you consider egg and spoon races to be competitive sport?”

Mr Ratter replied that schools had to “balance the right to participate” with expectations of “fairness in competitive sports”.

He also told how the council had a “legal obligation to maintain single-sex facilities”.

Mr Ratter added: “Our schools provide inclusive or gender-neutral toilets for pupils who have the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.”

Mr Greer insisted: “There are parents afraid to send their children to school because of the hate they face for being trans. We want every child to feel safe.”

So when the girls want to race without boys, Greer sneers at it as not competitive, but when the boy is excluded he's saying its 'hate'? Or is racing with the girls supposed to be some kind of consolation?

All children should feel safe in school and be cared for without bullying.

That includes girls being entitled to their own sports and single sex changing rooms.

Ross Greer is a misogynist weirdo.

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2026 19:24

Woodburning does not produce more particulates than traffic.

Fron your source:

'...households burning wood indoors, ... contributed 12 per cent of total PM2.5 emissions and 6 per cent of total PM10 emissions in 2024.

Road transport continues to be a major source of PM emissions, contributing 21 per cent of total PM2.5 emissions and 19 per cent of total PM10 emissions in 2024.'

By the by.

And I am NOT saying everyone should get a wood burner.

Just those of us who need multiple sources of heat and energy as back up.

The main source of heat and power should be electric from renewable sources plus nuclear.

Back up heating is best served by wood not oil or gas.

If it were up to me everyone would retrofit their homes to not need much heating, and use heat pumps, but sadly that's unfeasibly expensive.

It is mad to suggest gas fires are healthier and better than wood.

Toootss · 24/05/2026 19:26

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/05/2026 19:15

Quelle surprise.

Seems blatant sexism - can she sue?
edit -the female student who was told by the greens she couldn’t run

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2026 19:37

Toootss · 24/05/2026 19:26

Seems blatant sexism - can she sue?
edit -the female student who was told by the greens she couldn’t run

Edited

Good point. I'm sure she could, but not sure she would.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 24/05/2026 20:26

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2026 19:13

Cheeky fucker.

Well done to the Ed director, though.

'The letter — sent from Mr Greer’s office last September — claimed it was “strange” that the local authority concluded it had a “legal obligation” to provide single-sex toilets.

The Greens boss also raised the case of a mum whose child had been “excluded” from a primary school’s sports day due to competition rules.

He asked the education boss: “Do you consider egg and spoon races to be competitive sport?”

Mr Ratter replied that schools had to “balance the right to participate” with expectations of “fairness in competitive sports”.

He also told how the council had a “legal obligation to maintain single-sex facilities”.

Mr Ratter added: “Our schools provide inclusive or gender-neutral toilets for pupils who have the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.”

Mr Greer insisted: “There are parents afraid to send their children to school because of the hate they face for being trans. We want every child to feel safe.”

So when the girls want to race without boys, Greer sneers at it as not competitive, but when the boy is excluded he's saying its 'hate'? Or is racing with the girls supposed to be some kind of consolation?

All children should feel safe in school and be cared for without bullying.

That includes girls being entitled to their own sports and single sex changing rooms.

Ross Greer is a misogynist weirdo.

No, no, no, @ArabellaScott - you have made the classic mistake of thinking that women’s and girls’ safety and dignity matter as much as those of men with Special Lady Feelz. We boring females do not matter to the Greens.

SionnachRuadh · 24/05/2026 22:01

I could have warned you @ArabellaScott mentioning woodburners is like saying Beetlejuice three times

Waitwhat23 · 24/05/2026 22:04

I swear, I'm at the point of promising to kick the next woodburner I see as long as we don't get yet another homily about woodburners on threads which are nothing to do with twatting woodburners.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 25/05/2026 09:12

Nice Adam’s apple Esme! FFS, how many of these men are there in the Green Party?

guinnessguzzler · 25/05/2026 10:06

It's almost impossible to keep up with all this, although the take home message does seem to be Maggie Chapman getting complaints from all sides.

TWETMIRF · 25/05/2026 10:37

It makes you wonder what dirt she has on people. She's a woman so naturally someone the greens are against and yet she seems to be able to see off any challenge.

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ArabellaScott · 31/05/2026 07:49

'For if the guidance, as it claims to be, is gender inclusive, then surely then venues must have funding in order to create gender inclusive facilities, if it is, as it claims, not exclusionary, then there must be specifics of what it means for someone to be challenged based on their gender or not, in particular toilets or venues or infrastructure settings or forums.'

Just stay out the women's loos, Q.

DuesToTheDirt · 31/05/2026 11:17

So we have an MSP who may not get a visa for the duration of the parliament, wants Scotland to pay reparations to Palestine (WTF) and now wants men in women's toilets (does he not know the history of the GRR bill? Does he not understand the law?).

I wonder if he'd have got voted in if we didn't have PR. Well, perhaps he would. Many people just see "Scottish Green Party" and think, yay, let's save the environment.

WhereYouLeftIt · 31/05/2026 14:56

Patrick Harvie was being interviewed on Times Radio today, and got very sniffy about the interviewer Adam Bolton using male pronouns for Q Maninvanan. Harvie ended up threatening to terminate the interview if Boulton continued to use male pronouns and Boulton sounded very grumpy by the end.

https://www.thetimes.com/radio/show/20260531-33726/2026-05-31 Starts at 1:31:15.

Adam Boulton with Sunday Mornings | Times Radio | The Times and the Sunday Times

Listen to Times Radio live for the latest breaking news, expert analysis and well-informed discussion covering the biggest stories of the day.

https://www.thetimes.com/radio/show/20260531-33726/2026-05-31

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/05/2026 15:15

WhereYouLeftIt · 31/05/2026 14:56

Patrick Harvie was being interviewed on Times Radio today, and got very sniffy about the interviewer Adam Bolton using male pronouns for Q Maninvanan. Harvie ended up threatening to terminate the interview if Boulton continued to use male pronouns and Boulton sounded very grumpy by the end.

https://www.thetimes.com/radio/show/20260531-33726/2026-05-31 Starts at 1:31:15.

It is such a fucking power play.

"I refuse to talk to you about this controversial issue unless you use language that presupposes the issue is resolved in my favour."

And young trans people actually believe they don't have any political or establishmental power!

RoamingToaster · 31/05/2026 23:03

WhereYouLeftIt · 31/05/2026 14:56

Patrick Harvie was being interviewed on Times Radio today, and got very sniffy about the interviewer Adam Bolton using male pronouns for Q Maninvanan. Harvie ended up threatening to terminate the interview if Boulton continued to use male pronouns and Boulton sounded very grumpy by the end.

https://www.thetimes.com/radio/show/20260531-33726/2026-05-31 Starts at 1:31:15.

Urgh so frustrating to listen to him and also funny that the presenter decided to give it a go and still messed it up as it’s just so dumb 😂

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