Scottish Greens being sexist again

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With Sparkles no longer a member other male Scottish Greens have had to step up to continue their terrible reputation. They are doing their bit.

Scottish Greens council candidate claimed JK Rowling was a Holocaust denier and said trans rapist Isla Bryson was a woman
Exclusive: Eryn Browning has been chosen by the Scottish Greens to contest a by-election in Clydebank Waterfront but offensive historic posts have resurfaced.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-greens-council-candidate-claimed-35039831?int_source=nba

There is hope the Scottish Greens might plunge into civil war after their conference. Patrick Harvie is standing down as leader but Slater is standing again and there is opposition over her elitist behaviour.
https://archive.is/ESYZg

How does she come across? I'm struggling to understand how someone sane can come out with some of the stuff she comes out with. How did the audience respond to her? Did you get on to her wanting an independent Scotland so that Scotland can then immediately start paying other countries compensation for imperialism?

She seemed quite excitable, most sentences ending with upspeak. Independence came up, along with taxing the King (or his land), which will presumably help to pay for the free buses, free social care and other free stuff in the Scottish Green Utopia. Compensation for imperialism not mentioned.

One question was about crime, and she said something about needing prosecutions (but with what consequences, if there are no prisons) and victim support (I don't think rape victims or families of murder victims would feel too supported if the criminals are not locked up! One of the other candiates mentioned her no-prison stance.

Audience reaction to her mostly positive, and she got more claps than the Tory candidate (the only one to say he agreed with the Supreme Court on FWS, while the SNP guy said he voted for the GRR), but then this is Scotland. Frankly her answer to the FWS question made me consider her a twit, but hey ho.

Left leaning voters are generally louder and more vocal. Hence the expression 'shy tory'.

Yougov poll is showing SNP doing very well, but also shows Reform projected to do surprisingly well.

@ArabellaScott I am reminded of the Independence vote. That year we had a holiday in the Outer Hebrides, which were swathed in YES banners, flags, posters. I don't think I saw a single NO sign. But, like nearly everywhere else in Scotland, NO won by a slim margin.

Scottish Green manifesto is 165 pages

As a set of coherent policies, the Scottish Greens’ manifesto is unserious at best. The lack of even a cursory attempt at adding up the price tag of such a large change in tax and spending policy makes it impossible to scrutinise its fiscal responsibility in a meaningful way. A Scottish Wealth Tax is treated as a throwaway line, when it would have large implications for tax administration and very uncertain revenues. Income tax proposals lack any detail: the pledge to “retain a progressive and redistributive Income Tax system” is compatible with so many different tax schedules as to be meaningless.

https://fraserofallander.org/2026-scottish-manifesto-analysis-scottish-greens/

The Scottish Greens want everything to be free
The Greens want to ban everything from horse racing to homework; from nuclear power to wood-burning stoves. Candidates such as Kate Nevens, who is almost certain to be elected as a list MSP for Edinburgh and the Lothians, say they want to abolish prisons, presumably so that murderers and rapists can be free to express themselves.

The Greens also want to legalise hard drugs, the distribution of which would likely offer attractive job opportunities to the thousands of criminals released from Scotland’s jails. The Greens want to install a shooting gallery – sorry, ‘safe drug consumption facility’ – in every town in Scotland so that folk can inject themselves with their drug of choice in peace...

The IFS and the auditor general for Scotland, Stephen Boyle, say the Greens’ programme is unsustainable without swingeing tax increases. Yet Scots are already taxed to the hilt and already pay far more tax than working people in England.

So where would the money come from? Not my problem, said the co-leader of the Scottish Greens, Ross Greer. ‘The concept of a fully costed manifesto is frankly a misleading one to the public,’ he said yesterday. Well, that’s one way of putting it. ....

The SNP is not ruling out another coalition arrangement with the Greens. The last ‘coalition of chaos’ collapsed in April 2024 following successive policy failures and the row over the Gender Recognition Reform Bill, which effectively allowed rapists to enter women’s prisons. Transgender self-ID remains a key plank of Green policy. It would be part of any repetition of the 2021 Bute House cooperation agreement between the two parties. History may be about to repeat itself as farce – and tragedy.

https://spectator.com/article/the-scottish-greens-want-everything-to-be-free/

The Scottish Greens want to protect women. Awkward questions though.

Scottish Greens promise misogyny bill in next Holyrood term

Scottish Conservative deputy leader Rachael Hamilton criticised the proposals from the Greens, linking it to wider disagreements over gender policy.
Ms Hamilton said: “It beggars belief that the Greens, who still refuse to tell us what they believe a woman is, have the nerve to propose this policy.
"Green MSPs slavishly backed Nicola Sturgeon's gender self-ID bill which would have undermined the rights of women and girls, if it hadn’t been blocked by the Conservatives.
"If the Greens really cared about protecting women, they would be telling the SNP to finally comply with the Supreme Court's ruling made over a year ago now."
Meanwhile, Scottish Liberal Democrat deputy leader Wendy Chamberlain said it was “extremely disappointing” that the Scottish Government had previously dropped its bill, arguing that action has too often fallen short of rhetoric.
She pointed to her party’s proposals for new offences targeting prejudice against women, as well as measures to strengthen domestic abuse protections.
Ms Chamberlain said: “It was extremely disappointing to see the SNP government ditching a proposed misogyny bill. It symbolised the lack of impetus and willing that plagues this issue, where warm words all too often exceed action. That needs to change.
“Violence against women and girls is disturbingly prevalent across Scotland, which is why my party have set out a range of manifesto commitments to tackle it and, ultimately, bring it to an end.
“Among those commitments are our plans to bring in separate offences targeting prejudice and contempt for women, as recommended by Baroness Kennedy’s independent expert group.
“That’s on top of our plans to end SNP delays and commence Part 1 of the Domestic Abuse Act, so we can finally bring key domestic abuse protections into effect. "
Reform UK candidate Helen McDade criticised the proposal, raising concerns about how such legislation would operate in practice.
Ms McDade, said: "We at Reform are incredibly intrigued to see how the greens bill on misogyny will work when that extremist party don’t even know what a woman is.
"I wonder how long it will take for men with penis’ and beards to claim to be victims under the misogyny bill if legislated by the greens."
Scottish Labour Justice spokesperson Pauline McNeill said “All parties have a responsibility to confront rising levels of misogyny and violence against women in Scotland and Scottish Labour has long backed action to tackle misogynistic hate crimes.
“Scottish Labour will tackle hateful and dangerous attitudes at their root – protecting kids from online misinformation, setting up a preventative Misogynistic Violence Unit within the Scottish Violence Reduction Unit and protecting women's single sex spaces.”
https://archive.is/k0xlU

History may be about to repeat itself as farce – and tragedy.

Polling predictions show SNP gaining around 50 seats, and they need 65 for a majority, which means coalition, which means Greens, and utterly ridiculous group of unserious twits at best, look like they will be forming next Scotgov.

I'm scunnered, I really am.

Kate Neven at a Hustings this week. Check out the tshirt...

The party has been taken over by the brain eating zombie fungus, a sex cult of the morally incontinent, the very stupid, and the opportunist.

Thinking about it, I was not trying to hint at anything in my last post, just that Kate Neven seems to be utterly in thrall to the cult of GI in order to wearing such a tshirt. She'd presumably be perfectly happy with 'balanced' public bodies with 100% men.

Only way out is Scottish Labour winning a decent number seats and then everyone letting them run a minority government.

https://www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-scotland-elections-wildcard-reform-uk-scottish-labour/

Labour are polling at around 10 seats. They are nowhere near what they need. Its never going to happen.

Labour, Reform, Tories and Libdems are all running around the same numbers - 10 seats or so.

Actually a Tory/Reform/Libdem coalition might be a distant possibility. But seems unlikely.

Still splits roughly along Unionist and Indie lines.

And the numbers for that don't really ever seem to shift much - about 45 pro Indie, 55 pro Union..

I can't imagine the Libdems working with the Tories and Reform. They're more likely to form an alliance with the SNP and the Greens.

The Libdems and Tories were in coalition a mere ten years ago.

One of the most unusual things about the coalition was once they'd got past their initial revulsion of each other (lol) the lib Dems and Tories found they had a lot more in common on policy. This all got thrashed out in the coalition agreement iirc.

The greens say they wouldn't work with Reform. The England Wales Greens had a motion barring them from collaboration in electoral pacts with the Workers party (Galloway's party) who they see as far right, which seems a penny drop moment. I dont know if it passed

But it's not unthinkable the greens would ally with the lib Dems and form one of those rainbow coalitions

In this election, Greens plus Libdems would be roughly 20 at best seats.

But if you added that the SNP the seat numbers would work, and they'd give us possibly the most batshit and untethered to reality government I can possibly imagine.

I mean bear in mind the SNP were known as the Tartan Tories not all that long ago. Parts of Scotland are traditionally Labour, but the suggestion that the coutnry as a whole is naturally leftwing is ... well, it's horseshit.

What's the point of living in this country anymore. Totally scunnered by all this. I'd hoped labour would have had more of a chance but hey ho. I'm actually quite depressed about all this.

there's an awful lot going for Scotland, but politics is currently failing it badly.

Is it just me, or do people in Scotland tend to be more passive politically than people in England? I actually find people in England pretty passive - they're very unlikely to demonstrate or take other action (in contrast with the French). But in Scotland I feel as though I'm surrounded by silence, where the Scottish government is concerned. Nobody wants to talk about it, even if you say something first. It's very unusual to hear anything negative about Holyrood or the SNP. And here on Mumsnet Scotsnet is practically a politics-free zone. On the rare occasions when someone posts something about Scottish politics, it gets ignored. There's very little on there other than advice for people who are going to Scotland on holiday.

Two from this week on Scotsnet -

www.mumsnet.com/talk/scotsnet/5514791-scotland-under-green-party-leadership-your-thoughts?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/scotsnet/5515911-scottish-elections-who-do-you-think-will-take-the-majority-of-seats?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

And lots of us post about Scotgish issues on this board.

https://fraserofallander.org/inequalities-in-voting-and-volunteering-who-participates-in-scotland/

'Scotland has a high level of average engagement across all survey years relative to Northern Ireland and Wales, but a lower level than England.

• Scottish residents are more likely to have volunteered in the past year than residents of Northern Ireland or Wales, but less likely to have volunteered than English residents.
• Scottish voting habits vary. Scotland had the lowest turnout in 2001 and 2005, and the highest turnout in 2015 and 2019. Scotland generally has higher turnout than Northern Ireland but lower turnout than England or Wales (Figure 1).
• Scottish residents are more likely to express an interest in politics than in Wales and Northern Ireland. Scotland’s responses are roughly similar to England. Interest in politics across the UK increased in 2016 following the EU referendum vote, particularly in Northern Ireland, and peaked in Scotland in 2018 (Figure 2).'

And more:

'Despite Scottish residents being relatively politically engaged, Scotland experiences substantial gaps in participation based on health, income, education, and employment.

• Scotland has the largest gap in participation between individuals that considered themselves in good health and individuals that considered themselves in poor health in the United Kingdom (Figure 3).
• The lowest income quintile in Scotland is more engaged than the lowest income quintile in Wales or Northern Ireland. However, Scotland experiences larger gaps between the highest and lowest income quintile than the national average in political interest. Notably, the bottom income quintile in Scotland was more likely to have voted than in any other part of the UK. Political interest was also higher than the national average for the lowest earners.
• Individuals with no qualifications in Scotland are less likely to volunteer than anywhere else in the UK, although they are more likely to have voted in a general election than the UK average. Unqualified individuals in Scotland are less likely to express an interest in politics than in England or Wales.
• Scotland experiences a greater gap in participation based on work-related benefits compared to the rest of the UK. Individuals receiving in-work income or unemployment benefits are less likely to have voted, volunteer, or express a political interest in Scotland than anywhere else in Great Britain.'

To be fair, I know many people here in Scotland who were massively politically engaged and vocal about it who are now just scunnered with the state of the Parliament, Government and poor calibre of MSP's across the board.