FWS v Scottish Ministers will be handed down Weds 16th April at 9.45am

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The Ruling in FWS v Scottish Ministers will be handed down next Weds 16th April at 9.45am It will also be streamed via the UKSC website, so you can watch live.

https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1910272949350695371

Well that makes two doctors doesn't it who are!

That's lovely, Clio

Many thanks @NoBinturongsHereMate for the clarification - I think I was getting confused with the internal disciplinary SP is subject to.

To be fair to actual doctors, I believe one of the two (Webberly) was struck off.

I had no idea it was so many, @Datun, though this being the BBC I really shouldn't be surprised

https://www.transgendertrend.com/the-suicide-myth/

https://www.transgendertrend.com/a-scientist-reviews-transgender-suicide-stats/

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/review-of-suicides-and-gender-dysphoria-at-the-tavistock-and-portman-nhs-foundation-trust/review-of-suicides-and-gender-dysphoria-at-the-tavistock-and-portman-nhs-foundation-trust-independent-report

Two comments in the Times (may have been shared already, can't see them). Janice Turner:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/c3a0ea77-1058-4e03-abf2-d1990ce10852?shareToken=b924e680453a09600d5d47604afb3a5b

Et voila Alex Massie who's been very good on this issue for a long time:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/d5f2aa86-d0ba-4475-bf6f-639176e974ad?shareToken=23f4215788a5b3a98251c46c7e7acb9e

https://www.city-journal.org/article/aclu-attorney-confesses-transgender-suicide-claim-is-a-myth

Maya is on channel 4 news now.

Thanks for trying to make sense of that, you've done better than I could.

Bloody hell they don’t waste any time with misinterpreting the judgment do they? Don’t they have lawyers to help them out?

Maya is coming across brilliantly.

I noticed the BBC news explainer this evening was from the social affairs unit. She wasn’t great, but it made me think about how far we’ve come since Ben Hunte of the BBC stonewall division.

Fucking hell though, the Channel 4 interviewer still seems captured or at pains to centre men & men’s feelings.

Reporter saying ‘many people would disagree with you’ to Maya saying trans women are vulnerable but they’re a vulnerable group of men, and need to be protected as that - e.g in prisons.

Well reporter lady - many people actually AGREE with Maya. And now so does the Supreme Court. So there.

I was hooting, she had so much trouble with her terminology.

I might look for it on iPlayer to laugh all over again.

That's my understanding too. This was one of my main gripes with allowing men into women's spaces. The deception. Lulling women into a sense of false security that they were in safe single sex spaces when, in fact, they were no such thing. Now we can ensure that our employers and other organisations either provide those single sex spaces or stop lying and make it clear that those "female toilets" are no such thing, so that women know what we are accessing.

Jolyon Maugham on the SC judgment. Still lying about suicide stats.

The result – as every trans person knows – is an epidemic of suicide. And even that reality is denied to them – government departments are stretching every sinew to prevent publication of suicide statistics which are acutely embarrassing to ministers who like to pretend to care.

https://goodlawproject.org/the-supreme-court-ignored-trans-voices-im-ashamed-of-what-our-law-has-become/?utm_source=twitter_jo&utm_campaign=glp_post_15853&utm_medium=jo&utm_content=16-04-2025

I wondered about this too.

Google seems to think that the BBC has around 22,000 employees so 400 is about 1.8%

Now we just need an accurate estimate for the percentage trans identifying in the general population - less than 0.5%?

I wonder if they will return to the changing room and for Rose to move to the cupboard?!

Don't know if this has been shared yet but the singing on this sky news clip gives goosebumps. First heard it on the radio and had to find it again. Radio presenter suggested she'd make it her ring tone.

https://x.com/danwootton/status/1912438679273951574?t=TtmQsX0S5X5NQN6nQYZ17g&s=19

FFS Maggie Chapman from Scottish Greens is ranting on about the poor trans women on sky. She is a disgrace to her sex.

It's a guess, but they might have used the concept of "social disability", that your environment contributes to disability because most things are set up for healthy / neurotypical people, on the TRA cause and got confused along the way. Which is not surprising as I don't think the concept could be transferred to that cause.

The 'many people would disagree with you' attack does seem to be appearing more and more often.

Didn't Nuala use it to get-the-last-word-in on Julie Bindel when discussing sex work on WH a couple of days ago?

With nearly 70 million people in the UK, it is not hard to find some pretty crazy points of view that are held by 'many people'.