Women's rights general conversations - Thread 10

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Continuation of Thread 9.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions in the supermarket, grr"- that sort of thing).

One for the old-timers, reminds me of the other place.

https://imgur.com/a/6gfMQD2

You've just made me quite sad that hatters isn't still posting on That Thread @bignosebignose ! A bunch of us had quite a fight with him about a month ago and he hasn't been back. He did say when I offered him a reading list that he wouldn't read anything I recommended, whilst moaning about the lack of reliable sources of information on our side. You really couldn't make it up.

That's dangerously close to shouting Beetlejuice

Apparently, Billie Piper is going to be the next Dr Who! Well done her on landing the role. Firstly admit I started losing interest with Capaldi and gave up completely with Whittaker. However, AIBU to find this direction potentially a little creepy, character wise. Iirc the Doctor and Rose were romantically entangled. Rose was gifted a Doctor-dupe as a consolation prize when she left. Now the Doctor is literally putting on her skin. Fortunately he's a time lord doctor not a GP.

Dr Who is still being made?

They should have put it on ice years ago and then rebooted it after a good 15+ years rest (or however long it takes for the BBC to focus on good characters and stories again).

Ha, yes, I was following that. He threw a bit of tantrum as he flounced.

I'd forgotten about him, dreadful man. Has anyone ever met him?

One of the reasons I have no wish to go back there. Always annoying, little twerp.

I was just thinking about The Handmaid's Tale, and reflecting, as I have done before, that the cinema film never got very good reviews. I saw it at the cinema when it came out, and thought it a very decent stab at the book, which I had read shortly before. So I looked it up on imdb; sure enough, a very modest rating of 6.0. So I thought to read a review or two. Starting with Roger Ebert, who I always had a lot of time for as a film critic. Reading his review now is a bit jaw-dropping. He just doesn't seem to 'get' the film, or the book. See what you think. Has anyone re-watched it recently?

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-handmaids-tale-1990

I went shopping with teen DD. She wanted to try bras on in Asda Living. It has women's clothing downstairs and mens and childrens clothing are upstairs. Although the downstairs fitting room isn't marked women only, it's fair to assume it's for women, especially as it's right next to the lingerie section.

It's got doors on the cubicles but with gaps top and bottom and a sort of lobby area in the middle where you can look at things in a big mirror.

When we went in, a man was sitting on a stool in the lobby part. DD said to me "is this the ladies fitting room?" and I said yes and looked at the man who ignored us. DD said "I don't want to try bras on with him in here." At that point, a cubicle opened and a lady stuck her head out and said "oh he's with me and he's harmless." I said "my daughter feels uncomfortable trying on underwear with a man in the fitting room." The lady told us not to be so stupid and shut the door and the man remained there.

We tried to find a staff member but there was nobody on the shop floor, so we just abandoned purchasing the bras as she didn't feel comfortable with him being there.

Why do men think it's ok to infringe on our spaces and make us feel uncomfortable like that? There's no reason why he needed to be in the fitting room. He could have waited outside on the shop floor.

@YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan Ah, what you have there is your common-or-garden “Not My Nigel”

I'd feel the same as your daughter, @YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan

10 or 15 years ago men simply wouldn't have hung about in women's changing rooms, they'd have known very well their presence was inappropriate and would have waited outside on the shop floor.

That's very poor from him and his wife (?).

Smart shops often used to have a sort of holding pen where you could leave your husband/boyfriend, with sofas and sometimes even a telly, while you tried on stuff in the changing room.

Bad attitude from them, but poor design by Asda. A seat or two just outside the changing room area is good, just having one inside is liable to result in blokes encroaching.

I didn't know there was a Handmaid's Tale film. I'll have to look it out, but it certainly looks as if that reviewer had no idea what it was about.

By Volker Schlöndorff, who did The Tin Drum, which I liked too. It had a great cast, Faye Dunaway was Serena, and Robert Duvall the Commander.

The latest TRA bid for public support appears to be ...

.... bullying bunnies.

No, that's not some sort of code or euphemism. A rabbit rescue charity is being attacked on TwiX for not vetting every single one of their 7000-odd followers for signs of TERFism.

I'd have thought that understanding about sex was pretty vital for a rabbit owner.

Though I did know someone whose pet rabbit, Gerry, escaped from his pen and returned some time later in an interesting condition, leading to his being referred to ever after as 'Gerry the sex-change rabbit'. Which just goes to show we hadn't heard of gender back in the 1980s.

Oh FFS! What’s the name of the charity so I can go and watch the aaction on Twix?

Gerry's offspring all made satisfactory pets btw (distributed via not a charity but a village shop noticeboard) despite being half wild beast.

I agree.

Those TRAs attacking the Rabbit charity are next level authoritarians. How bloody insane.

Carrot Cottage, on TwiX as @carrottcottagerr, and there is a bit of explanation lurking in the replies to this x.com/DreyfusJames/status/1929142564038345016?

Oh! 'bunny lovers'. That explains how the tras found them. Bloody furries! 😠