Women's rights general conversations - Thread 10

[Kucinghitam]

Continuation of Thread 9.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions in the supermarket, grr"- that sort of thing).

Perhaps it could be to do with last year's winner, Nemo, who figured prominently.

Indeed.

In a wig that reminded me of Grayson Perry.

Fair do's - he did whip it off at one point.

I wasn't sure if the other one (with the white costume) was a badly fitting wig or a peculiar hat. Or a cat that had gone to sleep on a convenient head and refused to move.

And then once you've got over WTF Nemo was wearing, listen to the words of the song. Or for preference, put it on mute and read the subtitles. Definite hints of a trip to Malaga there despite claiming to be non-binary last year.

That's what got me deleted.

We didn’t get subtitles - are the lyrics online anywhere? I can’t remember the name of the song.

It was the interval act rather than an entry, so a little harder to find details. It might be called 'I'm a woman in my dreams'. But that's a guess from the lines I remember - song.titles aren't always obvious from the lyrics, so it could well have been called something else entirely.

Ah I'm entirely wrong. It's Unexplainable, and can be found on YouTube.

Ah, I think maybe we'd switched off the telly and gone to bed by that point.

Probably sensible. Although you would also have missed the sing off between ChaChaCha and Rim Tim Tagi Dim, which was fun.

I stumbled across this on YouTube, no need to watch it. It's just an example

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZuE5Y-SjaTw?si=6edC4GN6T1gJRpfE

A bloke got a huge crowd of people to come out in NY to watch him eat a jar of cheese balls. They looked colourful, noisy and seemed to be having a high old time. Just in case anyone is worried by the number of people who have turned up for the recent anti-woman marches. Some folx's lives are so devoid they'll come out to anything. A minority of true believers and the rest, perhaps, could be best described as rabble 😃 Out for the colour, the noise and to try to have a high old time. Gets them out of the house.

I've just discovered this blog https://labourpainsblog.com which is delightfully sarky about various characters on TRSOH. Mostly the fox-botherer at the moment, but there's also a reference to "Professor Stephn Whitle OBE, PhD, DLaws, FAcSS, Cycling Proficiency Grade 2" which made me laugh.

Makes me think of Rimmer from Red Dwarf -

HOLLY: “BSc, SSc?” What’s that?LISTER: Bronze Swimming certificate and Silver Swimming certificate. He’s a total lunatic.

Also, how ABSOLUTELY AMAZING that Mrs Foxbotherer had happen to her EXACTLY what Mr Foxbotherer predicted would happen. It's almost like he made it up!

https://x.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1925192724807827498

Good article by Jo Bartosch.

https://thecritic.co.uk/our-mps-are-still-dangerously-delusional-on-gender/

Just read this bleak book review in the NS. I was pretty unenthusiastic about AI before I read it... But anyway, I thought it was of (grim) interest.

www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/book-of-the-day/2025/05/misogyny-in-the-metaverse

Thank you for sharing that. I think.

I knew about quite a few of those individual things already, but seeing them all brought together is extra depressing.

Looking at it, I can absolutely see why people abandoned TwiX en masse for places like Mastodon and Bluesky that promised to be nice, gentle groups of lovely people where you could leave the nastiness behind. But they never are, are they?

Yeah, it's ugly, isn't it? But it told me some stuff I didn't know, and chimed in with other things I'd read in the past.

WRN response to the WH series on the SC judgement.

https://www.womensrights.network/post/what-we-learned-from-woman-s-hour?

Doesn't say much you won't have already spotted if you had the energy to listen to all of them, but a handy summary for those of us who lost the will half way through and might be wondering whether to bother with the rest.

https://theconversation.com/we-are-all-lumped-under-one-umbrella-of-hate-when-social-attitudes-change-what-is-life-like-for-people-who-dont-agree-253464?

"Our interviewees believe their positions are frequently mis-characterised and conflated" say the authors of an article that repeatedly mischaracterises and conflates them.

Women are signing this petition:

https://www.change.org/p/not-in-our-name-women-in-support-of-the-trans-community

More fool them, then.

Wow, that's an easy one to sign to make yourself feel good without exercising a single brain cell 🙄

So presumably they are going to be fighting to keep trans-identified females out of women's spaces because they are men and, as they rightly say, 98% of perpetrators of sexual offences are men? No, of course they aren't... because they know exactly who the biological men and women are.

This petition is part of the ongoing attempt to queer feminism in order to allow a subsection of men to overcome women's boundaries and safeguarding instincts.