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Women's rights general conversations - Thread 10

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Kucinghitam · 10/04/2025 11:08

Continuation of Thread 9.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions in the supermarket, grr"- that sort of thing).

Women's rights general conversations - Thread 9 | Mumsnet

Continuation of Thread 8. There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have...

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Pibs101 · 04/09/2026 17:53

I feel the need to confess that until early 2023 I was fully twaw. This wouldn’t be too bad except I was insufferable about it. I’d regularly pontificate to my Mum about how non binary was valid, that you absolutely are the gender that you say you are. That trans women should of course be allowed in women’s toilets. I was a bore and a twat. I don’t even have the excuse of youth as in January 2023 I would have been 48. I am embarrassed and ashamed of myself.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 04/09/2026 18:00

What snapped you out of it?

Pibs101 · 04/09/2026 18:10

I was watching a video of a YouTuber whose content I liked at the time. He started talking about how it was perfectly acceptable for trans women to be in women’s shelters. He said if any woman doesn’t want them there then there is ‘something wrong with them’ and they need therapy. I just got so enraged watching this man blame women. I had a friend who experienced dv and marital rape and she went to a women’s shelter in the 70’s. I was so disgusted by him and this started me down a rabbit hole of looking at what gender critical people were saying. Discovering that what they said seemed reasonable and slowly moving to a position of being fully gender critical.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 04/09/2026 18:39

@Pibs101, glad you realised. It's interesting how many people have clear memories of what peaked them. For me it was when the then leader of the Lib Dems, Jo Swinson, thought that shouting 'TWAW!' would make her PM. At that point I realised that all these weirdos were actually serious and I was so outraged I almost had a nervous breakdown in reaction. Never looked back Grin

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