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Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

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IwantToRetire · 25/03/2025 22:38

The Trump administration is planning to freeze tens of millions of dollars in federal grants to organizations providing family planning and other reproductive health services, as it reviews whether the funds violate the president’s order to cease all government-backed diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) work.

A Health and Human Services spokesperson told The Wall Street Journal, which reported on the plan, that the department was reviewing grants to make sure they complied with the crackdown on DEI.

The freeze to the Title X program could impact as much as $120 million worth of grants to a network of roughly 4,000 clinics providing free and discounted pregnancy testing, contraception, sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing and treatment, and evaluations and testing for infertility.

Planned Parenthood, whose affiliates could lose roughly $20 million if the paused grants are ultimately cut, reacted with alarm.

“The Trump-Vance-Musk administration wants to shut down Planned Parenthood health centers by any means necessary, and they’ll end people’s access to birth control, cancer screenings, STI testing and treatment, and more to do it,” Planned Parenthood Federation of America CEO Alex McGill Johnson told the newspaper.

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

Change could impact thousands of clinics providing contraception and sexually transmitted infection testing

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

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MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 11:10

nolongersurprised · 05/04/2025 10:32

I had to delurk because I couldn’t believe the degree of ignorance!

I suppose that poster all the way through the thread has struggled to differentiate between children and adults 🤷‍♀️

I’m not talking about that level of transition. That’s surgical. We’ve only being discussing pharmaceutical intervention.

Slothtoes · 05/04/2025 11:12

I agree. Women’s reproductive and sexual health, is the hill to die on for me. We don’t have to pick sides here- all sides of the Trump agenda are anti-woman. He’s just not keen on people breaking gender norms so he’s obviously going to put gender identity politics in his basket for punishment too.

Don’t think this Trump action is just about cutting off organisations that also dole out puberty blockers or cross sex hormones. Where is the explicit provision to protect access to abortion and contraception and all the other women’s health services, if that was true?

Nowhere.

Trump and Vance want all of it gone as a devastatingly cruel power play to signal to and reward their misogynistic powerbase. They are actively anti women and they will not rebuild women’s services as long as they are in power.

Shocked to see anyone defending Trump’s life threatening behaviour if they only agree with him on that one issue of opposing gender identity ideology. Any person who supports biological reality agrees with him. that’s like agreeing with someone that the earth is round. So what.

That support on that one issue is dwarfed by all the other female life threatening, global peace threatening, sexist, racist, homophobic, ableist, environmentally catastrophic lunacy that Trump’s enacting.

And don’t think the Trump administration is not going to try to use UK girls and women’s bodies as leverage in future ‘negotiations’ with our government too. Vance is already weighing in on that protester flouting a legal exclusion zone outside an abortion clinic in England. He is trying to make a free speech argument out of that. If he feels that way he should be lobbying the UK government to rescind the 2011 laws on restrictions on protest in Parliament Square outside the Westminster Houses of Parliament, which I would fully support, including for anti choice or other anti women’s rights protesters to protest if they want to.

nolongersurprised · 05/04/2025 11:12

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 11:10

I’m not talking about that level of transition. That’s surgical. We’ve only being discussing pharmaceutical intervention.

If you stop a male child’s puberty at tanner stage 2 and follow it with exogenous testosterone you have achieved absolute castration. No surgery required.

NotBadConsidering · 05/04/2025 11:13

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and let’s just ignore the fact that PBs rarely affect fertility to any great degree

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I have said that yes, PBs do affect fertility to a degree - males more than females.

This is not ignorance.

nolongersurprised · 05/04/2025 11:14

NotBadConsidering · 05/04/2025 11:13

Page 29:

and let’s just ignore the fact that PBs rarely affect fertility to any great degree

Page 33:

I have said that yes, PBs do affect fertility to a degree - males more than females.

This is not ignorance.

“To a degree” doesn’t mean that they actually agree the child will be infertile, just that they think there will be challenges.

nolongersurprised · 05/04/2025 11:14

nolongersurprised · 05/04/2025 11:12

If you stop a male child’s puberty at tanner stage 2 and follow it with exogenous testosterone you have achieved absolute castration. No surgery required.

Sorry - exogenous oestrogen

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 11:15

Women’s reproductive and sexual health, is the hill to die on for me.

Sterilisation before the age of 18 is an issue directly involved with women's reproductive health.

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 11:16

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/04/2025 09:35

And I didn’t call you a paedophile @MessinaBloomso please stop lying about my comment. I made a general comment about language used to obfuscate harm to children. Which it is. I meant puberty blockers in my comment, which causes harm to children. You dispute this harm apparently, but you’re seemingly not even aware of the difference between those drugs and cross sex hormones, so not really any authority on the matter.

You may not have written the word itself, but it was strongly implied, and your post came straight after the post that did call me one. This is disingenuous. It was particularly upsetting to me - and probably the reason I’m not giving up on the thread - as I suffered SA as a child. Just don’t bandy around words like that so easily. You don’t know who you’re saying them to.

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 11:20

I'm terribly sorry to hear that, Messina. Flowers

NotBadConsidering · 05/04/2025 11:26

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 11:15

Women’s reproductive and sexual health, is the hill to die on for me.

Sterilisation before the age of 18 is an issue directly involved with women's reproductive health.

Not just that. Planned Parenthood purport to help women’s health and women’s reproductive health. But they put thousands of women on testosterone each year. 94% of women on testosterone have some form of pelvic floor dysfunction, including high rates of incontinence, flatal and urinary, dyspareunia, and so on. They deliberately damage women’s reproductive health. Do they fix those problems themselves, creating a circular economy of healthcare? I wonder what they do with the problems they cause but can’t fix. Who fixes those women at that point?

nolongersurprised · 05/04/2025 11:28

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 11:10

I’m not talking about that level of transition. That’s surgical. We’ve only being discussing pharmaceutical intervention.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38585884/

remember the Mayo histology results, of boys on PBs? All had mild-severe testicular gland atrophy, with all testicles examined remaining pre pubertal over the PB time period. The authors’ conclusions were that, actually, PBs may not actually be reversible (I mean, no shit 🙄).

Follow this up with oestrogen and the chances of fertility and adult sexual function for these boys are zero.

Puberty Blocker and Aging Impact on Testicular Cell States and Function - PubMed

Spermatogonial stem cell (SSC) acquisition of meiotogenetic state during puberty to produce genetically diverse gametes is blocked by drugs collectively referred as 'puberty blocker' (PB). Investigating the impact of PB on juvenile SSC state and functi...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38585884/

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 11:30

@Helleofabore

This does not explain how Eresh's post targets you or doesn't say what she has stated.

I consider the distaste for the word “children” referencing minor human beings entering adolescence, as obfuscation which enables and conceals potentially harmful practices most people would naturally have a negative view on. As indeed they do.

Although I’m not keen for it to be copied again, I’ve pasted it above. As I said, this post was immediately after the post that called me a child abuser.

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 11:31

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 11:20

I'm terribly sorry to hear that, Messina. Flowers

Thank you Arabella.

Datun · 05/04/2025 11:31

Does anyone know the answer to this question?

If you take puberty blockers, and then cross sex hormones, how long can you take them for, before your chance of puberty resuming is zero.

I know there are permanent side effects, like facial hair for women. But for either sex, if they stopped taking the wrong sex hormone, would their natural puberty resume?

And if it doesn't, will taking the correct sex hormone help it?

I'm sure I've read that there was a window of opportunity for the resumption of puberty, but I can't find the actual time limit.

i'm not talking about adults, I'm talking about children who are blocked at tanner stage two.

i've tried to google it, but I'm not coming up with anything.

Helleofabore · 05/04/2025 11:33

nolongersurprised · 05/04/2025 11:28

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38585884/

remember the Mayo histology results, of boys on PBs? All had mild-severe testicular gland atrophy, with all testicles examined remaining pre pubertal over the PB time period. The authors’ conclusions were that, actually, PBs may not actually be reversible (I mean, no shit 🙄).

Follow this up with oestrogen and the chances of fertility and adult sexual function for these boys are zero.

Yes. This study (I posted it a page or so ago) has been ignored.

Datun · 05/04/2025 11:35

Helleofabore · 05/04/2025 11:33

Yes. This study (I posted it a page or so ago) has been ignored.

Yes I read that, but I didn't think it answered my question. But then, I didn't understand half of it!

Helleofabore · 05/04/2025 11:36

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 11:30

@Helleofabore

This does not explain how Eresh's post targets you or doesn't say what she has stated.

I consider the distaste for the word “children” referencing minor human beings entering adolescence, as obfuscation which enables and conceals potentially harmful practices most people would naturally have a negative view on. As indeed they do.

Although I’m not keen for it to be copied again, I’ve pasted it above. As I said, this post was immediately after the post that called me a child abuser.

And Eresh has explained her intentions.

Do you mean that people should dismiss her intentions but believe your own explanations for your posts? Seems rather hypocritical.

nolongersurprised · 05/04/2025 11:42

Helleofabore · 05/04/2025 11:33

Yes. This study (I posted it a page or so ago) has been ignored.

I noted it! I thought maybe some people needed a reminder

Helleofabore · 05/04/2025 11:42

Datun · 05/04/2025 11:35

Yes I read that, but I didn't think it answered my question. But then, I didn't understand half of it!

Your question about when is the point of no ability to ever go through puberty ?

Let me have a look. There is a window but it depends on which body function is under discussion.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/04/2025 11:42

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 11:16

You may not have written the word itself, but it was strongly implied, and your post came straight after the post that did call me one. This is disingenuous. It was particularly upsetting to me - and probably the reason I’m not giving up on the thread - as I suffered SA as a child. Just don’t bandy around words like that so easily. You don’t know who you’re saying them to.

Stop lying about my posts @MessinaBloom- you do not know better than me what I was saying.

Helleofabore · 05/04/2025 11:43

nolongersurprised · 05/04/2025 11:42

I noted it! I thought maybe some people needed a reminder

😁

Datun · 05/04/2025 11:45

Helleofabore · 05/04/2025 11:42

Your question about when is the point of no ability to ever go through puberty ?

Let me have a look. There is a window but it depends on which body function is under discussion.

It's because I was listening to a man on the radio who had a DSD which meant he didn't go through male puberty.

I was desperate for them to answer the question, but I don't think they did.

Interestingly, though, he said that he was still playing with games and toys, when all his other friends were going down the mall to chat up girls.

people forget it's not just physical maturity.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/04/2025 11:45

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 11:30

@Helleofabore

This does not explain how Eresh's post targets you or doesn't say what she has stated.

I consider the distaste for the word “children” referencing minor human beings entering adolescence, as obfuscation which enables and conceals potentially harmful practices most people would naturally have a negative view on. As indeed they do.

Although I’m not keen for it to be copied again, I’ve pasted it above. As I said, this post was immediately after the post that called me a child abuser.

It was not. I posted immediately after that post objecting to you using your interpretation of it to smear other women on this board who hadn’t called people child abusers. As you are attempting to do to me.

Slothtoes · 05/04/2025 11:46

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 11:15

Women’s reproductive and sexual health, is the hill to die on for me.

Sterilisation before the age of 18 is an issue directly involved with women's reproductive health.

Of course I know that. No child should have their fertility and sexual function removed- and no young adult either.

It’s not safe for supporters of girls and women’s rights to ignore the bigger picture of the devastation to women’s rights in total that is going on, exemplified in this dropping funding to Planned Parenthood. Because in lots of parts of the U.S. It will mean no access to abortion and contraception for some girls and women. That’s a direct risk to health and life.

The DEI stuff that’s been stopped by Trump will include important issues about maternity rights, for example, too. The Trump opposition to all these things are all interconnected by a common thread of misogyny.

The TRA movement is a men’s sexual rights and sexual access campaign coming from patriarchy. It’s just also happening that the old school conventional Patriarchy is having its moment again, now so women are losing on an even bigger scale.

Trump’s cuts to overseas aid for domestic and overseas agencies that provide abortion or give information about abortion isn’t because they also offer gender identity drugs. It’s because they help women and girls and the Trump administration is actively anti abortion. White House fact sheet below.

www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-enforces-overwhelmingly-popular-demand-to-stop-taxpayer-funding-of-abortion/