Canadian PM Mark Carney's child attended Tavistock

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https://www.junonews.com/p/exclusive-mark-carney-sent-daughter

Also references in an article about this board on Mumsnet
(available here as a PDF, pg38-40
static1.squarespace.com/static/598d52a0cf81e004ba34a0a2/t/5fae93991c7089551ac8fbfc/1605276602695/smaller.pdf )

Was reading about this earlier.

But of course, it's not a movement by and for the privileged...

And yet they all have them, in Hollywood and in politics, the latest fashion accessory: a gender-addled wean.

Jesus Christ do you hear yourself?

I read her article - thanks, OP. As usual when reading these earnest self-justifications, I ended up thinking "this is crazy". They're rebelling against something they could just ignore.

Enid Blyton's character George doesn't have to be trans, nonbinary or what Sasha calls a boygirl. She's just herself: a female child preferring those activities which, in the 1940s, were stereotypically ascribed to male children. She just got on with it. She had friends, school, a nice family - she wasn't hated, excluded or any of the other awful abuses trans activists claim will happen to kids who don't conform to gender stereotypes.

We all knew some kids who didn't; many of us were those kids. The Famous Five books were written over EIGHTY years ago! There've now been four whole generations of women and men bucking 'gender' and just fucking getting on with their lives. The stereotypes themselves have weakened significantly: in Blyton's time and my own, girls and women were constrained by law.

Young people like Sasha have none of that to contend with yet, mystifyingly, go out of their way to re-solidify gender constraints while protesting their need to escape them.

Pfft!

Whatever your views on gender (and mine are traditional) I think it's a disgrace to go after Mark Carney by interrogating the mental health of his child. Leave his family alone: assess him on the basis of his policies as PM. His child is none of anyone's business.

It doesn't read to me as Sasha attended Gids, but another part of the Tavistock. It is also not all of Tavistock that has been shut down, only Gids.

I don’t think this article was terribly well researched.

No ones interrogating the mental health of his child. This is information that the child in question when they were an adult put into public. No one has dug through anyones bins to get this information.

In the past when people queried why certain UK politicans on the left were sending their children to private school that was not "going after" the child. Mark Carney's position on this may impact a lot of Canadian children.

Absolutely this. Literally wtf

So, you're just posting as a public service for Canadians, then? You just wanna help us out, do you?

No, I didn't see it as a public service, I wasn't aware there was a huge contingent of Canadians on here. I saw it on Ovarit and thought it was interesting since it mentioned Mumsnet.

Do you have an issue with the information being public? Sasha Carney doesn't.

This! Ffs OP read the room. The world is in crisis. In five years time the Map might look completely different to the way it now looks and our rights and freedoms might be significantly curtailed.

Im as gender critical as it comes but we don’t need to attack and bring down those who are willing to stand up to the bullies set on destroying the world.

Don’t fan the flames trying to burn those standing up to the Americans

Curious. Hmmm
Why the statement: Mark Carney's position on this may impact a lot of Canadian children.
What's it to you?

Agreed. Actually this article was leading and not well written and appears to be one of the predictable wave of anti democratic propaganda we are seeing at the moment. Right now we need to guard against this.

Mark Carney did a good job at B of E and is a great pair of hands for the current Trump-caused dangerous, weird situation we're all in. Why not take a look at his manifesto and criticise that rather than this?

Sorry, what are you implying? That I care about potential impacts on children?

I've been on Mumsnet a long time and I genuinely have never had so much ill intent inferred based on a post. Its a link I thought would interest other Mumsnetters and by sharing I've literally been accused of trying to eradicate democracy in the West.

If this post is genuinely that troubling to the future of democracy, please report to MNHQ

Absolutely this. Leave his child alone.

You posted in the middle of the night op.

Same happens on the relationships board. You get an influx of rather regressive, scolding posts. Be a good little woman won't you OP and stop making men look bad?

This is the feminist board. Of course you're allowed to question the influences behind the decisions those in power make. Those decisions have huge implications for women and children worldwide.

It's also very possible to care about multiple topics at once. And actually, privileged people in positions of power gaslighting the masses that 2+2=5 is precisely the kind of shit show that dangerous idiots like Trump take advantage of.

I’d advise caution inferring anything from this. My child was referred to the Tavi too. Both my DH and I are deeply GC - I’d hate for anyone to make inferences about him based on this, but perhaps this is why my DH has no social media and has never discussed any of this, anything personal esp about his kids, with his team.

Please remember that for every Susie Green there were dozens of parents on the open-minded to GC scale managing their child’s distress in an aggressively affirmative and captured care system.

I think it's incredibly important to understand which politicians believe children can be born in the wrong body. Which people in positions of power will claim trans women are women. That women can have a penis. Which adults don't seem to have a clue about safeguarding so support men in women's prisons...Canada, under Trudeau has become very dangerous for women & children-it would be good to know more about how Mark Carney feels about this issue.

Agreed. My first thought on reading this thread was oh look a trump fan trying to discredit someone who opposes his madness.
I am also a sex realist but the world has even bigger problems at the moment.

The PDF is interesting OP. Not very well written, but interesting nevertheless. I read widely on all sides of various issues. Ignore the censors. I prefer to make my own mind up.

The article reads to me like "this is how I feel/felt so give me what I want".
Trans children deserve support, love, affirmation of their identity, and access to resources like puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and gender-affirming clothing. They also deserve to have all of this on their own terms, without the legitimacy of their transness being interrogated, over and over, by transmeds and TERFs.

I think it's incredibly important to understand which politicians believe children can be born in the wrong body. Which people in positions of power will claim trans women are women. That women can have a penis. Which adults don't seem to have a clue about safeguarding so support men in women's prisons

I agree @happydappy2

I'm with you, OP.

Mark Carney, former head of the bank of England, multimillionaire, member of world economic forum and Bilderberg, is not going to change the state of the world anytime soon.

Friend of Epstein, Bill Gates etc.

I'm not surprised his children have mental health issues. I'm not surprised his total lack of human empathy has lead to him encouraging his child on this harmful pathway, he is in fact part of the "elite" that encourages gender ideology that makes an absolute fortune for the medical industry....

I'm not surprised his total lack of human empathy has lead to him encouraging his child on this harmful pathway

What do you base this on @Circumferences ?

So because Carney is 'anti-Trump' we're not allowed to criticise his actions? Of course his susceptibility to this must be discussed. It reflects on everything he does.

And?
Did I miss something? Is his child the new PM?

If someone doesn't want publicity or for their story to be known then they wouldn't write about it and have it published.