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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Illinois School Reportedly Forced Girls To Change In Front Of Trans-Identified Male Student

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CyclingSam · 15/03/2025 23:41

A middle school in Illinois reportedly forced a class of 13-year-old girls to change in front of a trans-identified male student in the school locker rooms after a Physical Education class, according to the mother of one of the girls involved.

https://reduxx.info/civil-rights-complaint-filed-after-illinois-school-reportedly-forced-girls-to-change-in-front-of-trans-identified-male-student/

Civil Rights Complaint Filed After Illinois School Reportedly Forced Girls To Change In Front Of Trans-Identified Male Student - Reduxx

A middle school in Illinois reportedly forced a class of 13-year-old girls to change in front of a trans-identified male student in the school locker rooms after a Physical Education class, according to the mother of one of the girls involved. Speaking...

https://reduxx.info/civil-rights-complaint-filed-after-illinois-school-reportedly-forced-girls-to-change-in-front-of-trans-identified-male-student/

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AnSolas · 16/03/2025 00:28

Assistant Principal Cathy Van Treese hauled the girls into her office and questioned them, before escorting them to their locker room and forcing them to change into their uniforms with the boy present. Van Treese was accompanied by Assistant Superintendent Joanna Ford and Director for Student Services Ginger Logemann.

These adults need to be sued in a personal capacity as the girls may of had no way of stopping the boy from accessing the room but the adults had not got a right to force the girls to remove clothing.

Helleofabore · 16/03/2025 09:43

I read this. It is a shameful action from those adults who should know better. How the fuck did this become something that is happening in one form or other around the world?

Those girls who still refused are tremendously brave, but I feel for those who felt they had to comply. The betrayal they may feel now or in the future when they process it may end up staying with them always. Just another instance of sex abuse but this time enforced by their school’s staff. It is abhorrent behaviour by those school staff.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 16/03/2025 09:51

So it's not enough for males to have access to female spaces but the females in them have to be forced to undress for them? Shameful.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 16/03/2025 10:22

Legalised molestation.

BunfightBetty · 16/03/2025 10:32

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 00:28

Assistant Principal Cathy Van Treese hauled the girls into her office and questioned them, before escorting them to their locker room and forcing them to change into their uniforms with the boy present. Van Treese was accompanied by Assistant Superintendent Joanna Ford and Director for Student Services Ginger Logemann.

These adults need to be sued in a personal capacity as the girls may of had no way of stopping the boy from accessing the room but the adults had not got a right to force the girls to remove clothing.

Agreed. It’s one thing to believe they can’t legally keep the boy out of the girls’ changing room once he says the magic words, but quite another to actually force the girls to expose themselves to him.

As an aside, I am beginning to hate the word ‘inclusive’. I’ve started to associate it with stupidity and aggression against women.

OldCrone · 16/03/2025 10:35

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 16/03/2025 09:51

So it's not enough for males to have access to female spaces but the females in them have to be forced to undress for them? Shameful.

The whole point for males wanting access to female spaces is that there are females using them. Voyeurism and indecent exposure are now legal for every male who says 'I identify as a woman/girl'.

And now teachers in schools are assisting boys in these crimes by insisting that girls have to get undressed in front of them and allow the boys to expose themselves.

alexbloodfire · 16/03/2025 14:54

This situation is unacceptable on every front, and it's crucial that we hold the staff responsible accountable for their actions.

CrazyOldMe · 16/03/2025 14:56

Sue them.

Sue them. Sue them. Sue them.

(And I'm usually the last person to say that, but this is the only language that these people understand)

TickingAlongNicely · 16/03/2025 15:04

As a side note... why is it in the US they are claiming that people are wanting to examine children's genitals for sports? To they honestly believe it is happening, has someone suggested its how they tell (instead of looking at the birth certificate) or is it all hyperbole?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 16/03/2025 15:17

TickingAlongNicely · 16/03/2025 15:04

As a side note... why is it in the US they are claiming that people are wanting to examine children's genitals for sports? To they honestly believe it is happening, has someone suggested its how they tell (instead of looking at the birth certificate) or is it all hyperbole?

It appears that the genital fetishists (seemingly very common amongst transactivists) have successfully persuaded adults with limited critical thinking skills that this is how sex is determined in sport for children. As opposed to honesty, the evidence of one's eyes, birth certificates and cheek swabs if necessary. It's DARVO on steroids.

Igmum · 16/03/2025 15:23

That is pure evil. How could any sane headteacher force 13 yo girls to strip in front of a boy? How could any other teacher support this? Are Mumsnet and Reduxx the only sane places to be?

SinnerBoy · 16/03/2025 15:35

Good grief, what a horrible article! It almost beggars belief that not one, but three female teachers forced those girls to do that. They deserved to be sacked, banned from teaching and prosecuted.

I didn't see a date, is it known whether this was before, or after the Executive Order?

UtopiaPlanitia · 16/03/2025 15:39

When this craze finally breaks, adults like these teachers will claim they had no choice but to do what they did. They’ll never admit to being true believers who felt virtuous in bullying these young girls for ideological reasons.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 16/03/2025 16:13

It appears to be a suburb of Chicago which doesn't surprise me. There's other parts of Illinois that if they tried this they'd get their ass handed to them but that area is a completely lost cause. They are the epitome of so open minded their brains fell out

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 16/03/2025 16:15

SinnerBoy · 16/03/2025 15:35

Good grief, what a horrible article! It almost beggars belief that not one, but three female teachers forced those girls to do that. They deserved to be sacked, banned from teaching and prosecuted.

I didn't see a date, is it known whether this was before, or after the Executive Order?

It was after, the incident occurred in February

CrazyOldMe · 16/03/2025 16:59

If any good can come of Trump, it's that he'll put a legal end to this nonsense.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 16/03/2025 19:44

There are two things Trump is trying to do. Reverse this nonsense and end 2 wars. What reasons can "progressives" have for opposing that?

SionnachRuadh · 16/03/2025 21:08

State of Illinois (JB Pritzker prop.)

I know lots of people are uncomfortable with the idea of needing Trump to stop the madness, but which is more likely to come first: Trump stopping the madness, or the Illinois Democratic Party ceasing to be owned by the Pritzker family?

SinnerBoy · 16/03/2025 21:42

YourAmplePlumPoster · Today 19:44

There are two things Trump is trying to do. Reverse this nonsense and end 2 wars.

And start 3; Canada, Greenland and Panama.

bluedomino · 16/03/2025 22:10

Those three women should be forced to undress in front of all the parents and all the children and maybe then they would understand why girls and women want and need privacy.

I also hate the word inclusive. I hate rainbows, the word diversity and trans woman (with or without a space). I never understood why T was added to LGB as it isn't a sexual orientation. If it is then they are porn addled males who get off on dressing as women in public and that's sick. It's also insulting as they like being humiliated and they think being a woman is being a lesser human being, a costume. I can't understand why these women cannot see how offensive the whole trans cause is and why they want to be seen as such ardent supporters of child abuse.

AnSolas · 17/03/2025 11:28

TickingAlongNicely · 16/03/2025 15:04

As a side note... why is it in the US they are claiming that people are wanting to examine children's genitals for sports? To they honestly believe it is happening, has someone suggested its how they tell (instead of looking at the birth certificate) or is it all hyperbole?

Pre DNA for World/ Olympic and other high level sports the only way to fairly "prove" that the person entered was not a male "ringer" or a male with a DSD was for a "medical". From wiki it was introduced in the 30's due to males with a DSD wining in the womens class.

So a woman engaged in high level sports had to get naked infront of a panel to prove she was not a man but a man never had to get naked to prove he was a man.

This method was replaced by other tests as science allowed for sex testing.

MarkWithaC · 19/03/2025 13:34

Is it proven that this actually happened?
All the news so far still uses words like 'allegedly' and 'reportedly'.
Don't get me wrong, assuming it's accurate, I'm aghast at it; I just want to be absolutely sure these girls were forced to stay and change in the room with a boy.

SomewhereinSuberbia · 19/03/2025 14:19

The child's mother is on you tube here at the school meeting in Matt Walch's podcast, (3 minutes in) and he also features the opponants at the meeting. As usual the needs of the girls are completely sidelined and the girls are just expected to comply -their rights to privicy are completely ignored.

MarkWithaC · 19/03/2025 14:44

SomewhereinSuberbia · 19/03/2025 14:19

The child's mother is on you tube here at the school meeting in Matt Walch's podcast, (3 minutes in) and he also features the opponants at the meeting. As usual the needs of the girls are completely sidelined and the girls are just expected to comply -their rights to privicy are completely ignored.

That clip won't play, but thanks; I'll look it up.