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Governor of California Changes His Tune: He Agrees Men and Boys Don't Belong In Women's Sports

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Delphinium20 · 06/03/2025 20:55

I always believed it would be sports that would peak the U.S. Terf Island has your women's rights activists (love them!) and non-profit medicine (Cass Report). Americans have their sense of fairness for all, especially in sports. If the governor of the largest state in the country ( $4.2 trillion GDP, an economy larger than most countries including the UK), has just said he thinks it's grossly unfair for boys to be in girls' sports, well, that's a pretty big deal.

Newsom can be critiqued for a lot (he put men in women's prisons and supported keeping secret children's transitions from their parents) but his change indicates a massive shift for the Democrats. He, obviously, wants to be president, so he's staking his "I was here first" claim on a topic that he's fully aware shows Americans are 70-80% against transwomen in women's sports. Yes, feminists said it first, but I'll take this win if it means Democrats can stop pretending men can be women. It's obnoxious we had to lose to Trump to get here, but I'm celebrating today.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20250306183716/www.nytimes.com/2025/03/06/us/politics/gavin-newsom-transgender-sports-democrats.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20250306183716/www.nytimes.com/2025/03/06/us/politics/gavin-newsom-transgender-sports-democrats.html

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Igmum · 06/03/2025 21:11

Good news - and in California too. Here's hoping he's the start of the landslide

Hoardasurass · 06/03/2025 21:11

Still a hard no from me he brought in the laws that makes it illegal to have single sex spaces, he made it illegal not to trans your gender confused child (ss will take and trans them). There's no way I'm letting that tra over the golden bridge

Delphinium20 · 06/03/2025 21:19

Definitely not intended as a post to praise Newsom, more of a post to show that his opinion change indicates a shift. Like him, hate him, or meh him, Newsom's voice means Democrats can follow.

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Helleofabore · 06/03/2025 21:24

I hope that this is a change
in direction. But why didn’t some Democratic Party senators vote to support the law changes or is Newsom a bellwether and will lead that change?

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2025 21:24

Good news. Pin him down!

Soontobe60 · 06/03/2025 21:29

I’d like to see what his definition of woman looks like…

borntobequiet · 06/03/2025 22:03

He’s an astute politician who can see the way the wind’s blowing, which some of his dimmer colleagues can’t.

nauticant · 06/03/2025 22:22

Well, that means there's one person who's definitely decided to be in the running to be the Democratic candidate for 2028.

borntobequiet · 06/03/2025 22:29

Absolutely.

Delphinium20 · 06/03/2025 22:59

Helleofabore · 06/03/2025 21:24

I hope that this is a change
in direction. But why didn’t some Democratic Party senators vote to support the law changes or is Newsom a bellwether and will lead that change?

Oh, I have no idea why not one Dem senator could brave a vote, however, I find it strategic that Newsom pitches his flag a day after the Senate vote. He's getting ahead of any other senator with ambition to the presidency, I imagine.

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Apollo441 · 07/03/2025 00:41

Newsom is the wokest of woke. If he is even considering bailing out then others can follow and hopefully the dam will burst.

miri1985 · 07/03/2025 00:51

The house democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries was asked about Newsoms change of heart given the democrats just this week opposed the women and girls in sports bill and he gave such a bizarre answer about how the democrats oppose unleashing sexual predators on girls throughout the US. Like if you oppose that then you have to be against self ID and completely pro single sex spaces

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miri1985 · 07/03/2025 01:56

Heres an article with more detail on what Jeffries meant by his comments, its the usual any kind of restriction will lead to genital inspections 🙄

"Asked Thursday about Newsom’s comments, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said he hadn’t seen them but said Democrats opposed “unleashing sexual predators on girls throughout the United States of America.” Democratic leaders had dubbed the transgender sports bill the “Child Predator Empowerment Act” and argued it would lead to adults inspecting childrens’ genitals to assess their eligibility for sports."

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/democrats-trans-sports-2028-00216585

Very interesting article, the Democrats quoted in it really don't get the issue or how this is about fairness not about hyperbole or hysteria

NumberTheory · 07/03/2025 02:58

Newsom is pragmatic and will jump whichever way he needs to to get what he wants.

As a Californian politician he needed to be on the trans side but with his sights set on the presidency he needs to take the whole country into account.

He is aware that even before Trump got in half of Democrats didn't believe transwomen are women, let alone that transwomen belong in women's sports. He's positioning himself will have a hard job keeping the activists on side, but the Dems can't win the country by pandering to the progressive base. They need all the middle ground and the swing voters too.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/03/2025 03:56

miri1985 · 07/03/2025 01:56

Heres an article with more detail on what Jeffries meant by his comments, its the usual any kind of restriction will lead to genital inspections 🙄

"Asked Thursday about Newsom’s comments, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said he hadn’t seen them but said Democrats opposed “unleashing sexual predators on girls throughout the United States of America.” Democratic leaders had dubbed the transgender sports bill the “Child Predator Empowerment Act” and argued it would lead to adults inspecting childrens’ genitals to assess their eligibility for sports."

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/democrats-trans-sports-2028-00216585

Very interesting article, the Democrats quoted in it really don't get the issue or how this is about fairness not about hyperbole or hysteria

Y'know, we have cheek swabs at elite sports level now for sex verification. At school age, just use the child's birth certificate.

The only time anyone inspected my genitals in connection with sport as a child, it was my GP because I'd met the pommel horse rather violently during PE and was bleeding from my vulva.

drhf · 07/03/2025 04:46

This is huge.

Gov. Newsom was mayor of San Francisco and a big supporter of same-sex marriage long before many leading Democrats. He defied state law to marry same-sex couples in 2004.

Someone as pro-equality as Newsom having these views will make many Democrats who haven’t questioned this up till now look again at this issue. Although there has been fury from LGBT organisations, his consistent support for gay rights will also make some people ask whether LGB & T rights necessarily belong together in the way that activists have claimed.

Floisme · 07/03/2025 07:31

I have to confess, I've been agog at the Democrats these last few weeks. They (the politicians not the voters) seem to have lost their minds. I hope this is the start of a return to reality,

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2025 07:37

miri1985 · 07/03/2025 00:51

The house democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries was asked about Newsoms change of heart given the democrats just this week opposed the women and girls in sports bill and he gave such a bizarre answer about how the democrats oppose unleashing sexual predators on girls throughout the US. Like if you oppose that then you have to be against self ID and completely pro single sex spaces

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That was absolutely bizarre. Glitching politician!

coldandfrostymorning23 · 07/03/2025 08:25

This confirms my view that Newsom,like many of his Democrat and Republican colleagues, is an unprincipled political opportunist.

I do not believe he cares about women, girls or vulnerable children. He would push them all under a bus if it boosted his ratings.

borntobequiet · 07/03/2025 08:37

It is possible to realise you’re wrong and change your mind, though.

Lots on here have done just that.

SionnachRuadh · 07/03/2025 08:56

Newsom is also known to be Obama's preferred presidential candidate. Would be interesting to know if Barry has had a conversation with him about this.

The next thing to watch is if the other governors thinking of running in 2028 start to reverse ferret. Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore, over to you.

Chersfrozenface · 07/03/2025 09:04

SionnachRuadh · 07/03/2025 08:56

Newsom is also known to be Obama's preferred presidential candidate. Would be interesting to know if Barry has had a conversation with him about this.

The next thing to watch is if the other governors thinking of running in 2028 start to reverse ferret. Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore, over to you.

Also in 2028, the Olympics. In Los Angeles.

Abhannmor · 07/03/2025 12:43

Being a Californian he is well briefed on Latino/ Latino sentiment. Including their hatred of Latinx. On the other hand he is yet another corporate shill.

As one meme has it - ' The nothing of Clinton have us Bush. The nothing of Obama gave us Trump.'
Bittersweet.

SionnachRuadh · 07/03/2025 14:01

I have to think the Dems would be mad to nominate two Californian candidates in a row. Worse than that, two San Franciscans, bearing in mind how the rest of California feels about San Francisco.

On the other hand, he's capable, intelligent and opportunistic. That might be as good as it gets.

My instinct is that Shapiro would be the candidate to beat, so I'm looking to see what he says.

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2025 14:37

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/democrats-trans-sports-2028-00216585

Edit: Oh, I see this was already shared. Sorry.