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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Being a man was too much hard work, so I became a woman

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HashtagBlessedHashtagGrateful · 26/02/2025 12:57

Yep, it's a good old DM article I'm afraid.

Being a man was too much hard work, so I became a woman: Inside the transmaxxing trend where men swap gender to get 'female' benefits like cheaper car insurance, free meals and sex | Daily Mail Online

I've not started a post in this section before, so apologies but I saw the headline and thought it would be one to share. "Transmaxxing" is a thing in incel culture and I know has been discussed here before. So yeah, being a woman is also now meaning you have failed at being a man 😡

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RoyalCorgi · 26/02/2025 17:25

There was a case in Canada a few years ago of a man changing his legal identity to be female in order to get cheaper car insurance. That discrimination is still legal in Canada, or was then, at any rate. As several PPs have said, it's not been legal here for years.

Really hard to see what other advantages they might gain from being female other than the usual: access to female-only spaces, which they might want for sexual reasons; getting places on female-only lists, such as "woman of the year", or filling the female quota on boards, which presumably only affects a minority; being thought "stunning and brave".

In other countries it might be a handy way of getting out of conscription. There was an interesting story a while ago about what was happening in Spain, with male soldiers changing legal sex to get some of the benefits accessible only to female soldiers:

https://nypost.com/2024/03/06/world-news/spanish-soldiers-changing-gender-to-female-for-added-benefits/

TempestTost · 26/02/2025 17:34

I always wonder to what degree people like this are taking the piss - it seems obvious that transitioning doesn't give easier access to sex.

We do know that giving concrete benefits does seem to be a pull - like the Apanish guys who declared themselves women to get an earlier retirement. I think this tells us we need to think carefully about differentiating certain things unless the reason is very concrete.

So maternity leave - yes, women only. But retirement? Maybe as a group you could say women are ready to retire earlier, but in truth it varies significantly, many men are needing to stop work when lots of women might still be quite able. So it causes resentment. I think that's true across differernt categories too.

Nothatgingerpirate · 26/02/2025 17:47

Bollocks.
I want that bollocks button 🔘 ✅
Good luck with the easier life 😂

Daleksatemyshed · 26/02/2025 17:47

You're confusing two issues here @offmynut , you couldn't get any help, not because of your sex but because you have no children. As someone whose childfree I've long seen that the benefits system is very much geared to being a parent.
As for the men who think women have an easier life - that's not about money, they're generally talking about sex and their perceptions that women can get sex any time they like. It says far more about some men's mindset that they think being able to get sex is the be all and end all

EnchantedForestNearTheRiver · 26/02/2025 20:04

Trans identifying men used to regularly come up on my dating app calling themselves lesbians. Every single one of them would state they were not interested in men like themselves.

They won’t date each other.

TheCatsTongue · 26/02/2025 20:21

Did anyone fill in the online poll on the article?

Would you consider transmaxxing?

  • Yes
  • No
  • Not Sure

😆

Chersfrozenface · 26/02/2025 20:32

TheCatsTongue · 26/02/2025 20:21

Did anyone fill in the online poll on the article?

Would you consider transmaxxing?

  • Yes
  • No
  • Not Sure

😆

Could a woman identify as a man, and then identify as a man identifying as a woman, in order to snag a high-value man and ensure an easy life?

If so, yes I would consider transmaxxing.

(No, of course I wouldn't, but there's nothing to stop me saying I would.)

TheCatsTongue · 26/02/2025 20:38

Chersfrozenface · 26/02/2025 20:32

Could a woman identify as a man, and then identify as a man identifying as a woman, in order to snag a high-value man and ensure an easy life?

If so, yes I would consider transmaxxing.

(No, of course I wouldn't, but there's nothing to stop me saying I would.)

Yes, that is called circumgender.

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1156157980250988544

Merrymouse · 26/02/2025 22:29

RoyalCorgi · 26/02/2025 17:25

There was a case in Canada a few years ago of a man changing his legal identity to be female in order to get cheaper car insurance. That discrimination is still legal in Canada, or was then, at any rate. As several PPs have said, it's not been legal here for years.

Really hard to see what other advantages they might gain from being female other than the usual: access to female-only spaces, which they might want for sexual reasons; getting places on female-only lists, such as "woman of the year", or filling the female quota on boards, which presumably only affects a minority; being thought "stunning and brave".

In other countries it might be a handy way of getting out of conscription. There was an interesting story a while ago about what was happening in Spain, with male soldiers changing legal sex to get some of the benefits accessible only to female soldiers:

https://nypost.com/2024/03/06/world-news/spanish-soldiers-changing-gender-to-female-for-added-benefits/

In America all men between 18 and 25 must register for the draft, and there is no exemption for those who identify as trans. This policy predates Trump, but presumably per Trump's new rules restricting trans people from joining the services, they would be exempt?

Dominoodles · 26/02/2025 23:02

sunbum · 26/02/2025 13:34

Absolute bollocks as well. Cheaper car insurance for women stopped years ago as it was deemed discriminatory, despite 75pc of road fatalities in the UK being caused by male drivers.

That always bothered me, too. Is it discrimination when you charge a younger driver more than an older one? Or is it just accepting that one group is a higher risk than the other and charging accordingly? If it's discrimination to charge the sexes differently then you could argue all rate differences are discrimination and everyone should be paying the same, which is obviously ridiculous.

fabricstash · 26/02/2025 23:09

Sasha Bailey did an interesting podcast on Transmaxxing and other things on Gender a Wider Lens. It is a really interesting male transactional view

SwanOfThoseThings · 26/02/2025 23:15

Dominoodles · 26/02/2025 23:02

That always bothered me, too. Is it discrimination when you charge a younger driver more than an older one? Or is it just accepting that one group is a higher risk than the other and charging accordingly? If it's discrimination to charge the sexes differently then you could argue all rate differences are discrimination and everyone should be paying the same, which is obviously ridiculous.

You could argue that age differences apply universally, i.e. everyone will go through stages of paying more or less based on their age; whereas a sex difference is not changing characteristic (I very much doubt insurers would want to get into the debate about whether transitioning gender should affect premiums).

I'm not saying I agree with this approach but there is logic to it.

TheCatsTongue · 26/02/2025 23:23

Dominoodles · 26/02/2025 23:02

That always bothered me, too. Is it discrimination when you charge a younger driver more than an older one? Or is it just accepting that one group is a higher risk than the other and charging accordingly? If it's discrimination to charge the sexes differently then you could argue all rate differences are discrimination and everyone should be paying the same, which is obviously ridiculous.

Insurance should be based on risk, but this decision was created by the ECJ who decided that sex should not affect insurance premiums.

Devonshiregal · 27/02/2025 01:29

‘A huge amount of the reason I was incel was because I was a closeted trans girl.'

mmhmmm…not that just transitioning is escapism because you hated yourself and therefore feel better not ‘being’ that person.

anyway… other than these ridiculous statements and the general sexist ridiculousness. And putting aside the whole destruction of women’s rights etc. is it only me who was reading it and thinking at least if they’re busy trying to be a woman to find a sugar daddy they’re not spinning into incel induced public shootings etc?

how fucked up is that?! Could these men just be better versions of themselves - do the fucking work like the rest of us? Internalise their failures like the rest of us do instead of blaming the world (women) do their shortcomings. Ugh

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 27/02/2025 01:43

offmynut · 26/02/2025 16:06

Yeah it is if your a real woman and have kids you get more help.

This help is for the children, not the parent.

PinkoPonko · 27/02/2025 02:17

JasmineAllen · 26/02/2025 14:12

IMO the only way this could be a thing would be in homophobic countries/cultures where the TW becomes a successful gay man's 'beard' while actually being a gay couple. Ie, not really a beard in the true sense of the word as they're both men.

Otherwise it's pretty much a non starter for obvious reasons.

I’m afraid most TW are clocked as male rather quickly. So the bearding thing wouldn’t really work…

TealSapphire · 27/02/2025 02:47

There's a lot of them labelling themselves as 'transbians' now. Trans lesbians.

Snippit · 27/02/2025 05:46

MarieDeGournay · 26/02/2025 13:10

Yeah it's so much easier to be a woman, isn't it🙄

Yep, real fun, especially when the only HRT that suited you after 3 years of trial and error is discontinued!? No explanation as to why, probably down to money.

My Gran always used to say she’s coming back as a man, I understand her reasoning now, never did as a youngster.

Pootlemcsmootle · 27/02/2025 06:09

I mean this is hilarious to me. A privileged white male thinks life would be easier being a woman, bloody hell. Would LOVE to be a fly on the wall the first 50 times they realise what a big old mistake they've made 😄

Doingmybestbut · 27/02/2025 06:10

Are we meant to be going through life getting free meals? I think I’ve missed that.

Ihopeithinkiknow · 27/02/2025 06:14

It's not easier living as a woman lol but it is easier living as someone who can demand what they want when they want otherwise they will just accuse people as transphobic and everyone is walking around on eggshells. It's just toddler behaviour that these men are displaying

TheaBrandt1 · 27/02/2025 06:41

These “women have it easier” men are fixating on the 000000.1% of women who are conventionally beautiful and between the ages of 18-25. Undoubtedly they will get some perks from men if they seek them out. For a few years only. But for the VAST majority of women this is obviously not the case and on balance we have it far harder than men due to the double shift and biological crap we have to deal with.

Wait until you hit 50 Dh sails on unaffected by no more than the odd gray hair I’m hit by new symptoms every few months! First time i genuinely wish I was a man.

JasmineAllen · 27/02/2025 08:07

PinkoPonko · 27/02/2025 02:17

I’m afraid most TW are clocked as male rather quickly. So the bearding thing wouldn’t really work…

Oh yes, I completely agree, hence beard in inverted commas.
I was thinking somewhere like Afghanistan where gay men become trans women and bizarrely that's seen as fine, whereas being gay is illegal.

DeanElderberry · 27/02/2025 10:09

Does that really happen in Afghanistan? I know it's policy in Iran, but there's a huge difference being a woman in Iran and being one in Afghanistan.

GoldenGate · 27/02/2025 11:30

I'm sure the same psyche plays into the astronomical rise in youth transitioning. So many children and young people seem to think the opposite sex have it "easier" for selective reasons. We needed positive role models for these vulnerable people not cheerleading the false narratives that so many charities did until they went embarrassingly quiet.

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