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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Being a man was too much hard work, so I became a woman

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HashtagBlessedHashtagGrateful · 26/02/2025 12:57

Yep, it's a good old DM article I'm afraid.

Being a man was too much hard work, so I became a woman: Inside the transmaxxing trend where men swap gender to get 'female' benefits like cheaper car insurance, free meals and sex | Daily Mail Online

I've not started a post in this section before, so apologies but I saw the headline and thought it would be one to share. "Transmaxxing" is a thing in incel culture and I know has been discussed here before. So yeah, being a woman is also now meaning you have failed at being a man 😡

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Mrsbloggz · 26/02/2025 14:14

trivialMorning · 26/02/2025 13:58

I'd have thought the same as you - a huge narrowing of the potential dating pool.

I suspect it's a mix of fantasy and contempt towards actual women.

Surely the only potential partners will be gay men?
I would think that most gay men would be attracted to men who are manly and not men who identify as women?

JasmineAllen · 26/02/2025 14:14

SalfordQuays · 26/02/2025 14:09

I agree - it makes no sense. Assuming these men are incels, who have decided life is too hard being a man. So they dress up as a woman - and if they do it well and look good, then yes, there'll be people want to have sex with them. But those people will be men. Which isn't what they wanted, is it?
Or maybe they'll try and pretend they're lesbians, in order to persuade lesbian women to have sex with them. But the fundamental flaw in that plan is that lesbian women find women attractive, not men in dresses.
I can't see how it'll work!

I think the idea is they'll be 'gay for pay', maybe. The whole thing makes no sense as everyone will still know they are a man, dressed as a woman.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 26/02/2025 14:16

Assuming they exist, given tabloid history.

JasmineAllen · 26/02/2025 14:16

Mrsbloggz · 26/02/2025 14:14

Surely the only potential partners will be gay men?
I would think that most gay men would be attracted to men who are manly and not men who identify as women?

You'd think so, but once they're both undressed they're both obviously men so maybe it doesn't matter 🤷‍♀️

FamilyPhoto · 26/02/2025 14:17

Whoopee, can I give my debilitating menopause symptoms to one of them, so he can see how easy it is to be the proud owner of a biological female body?

WandaSiri · 26/02/2025 14:22

Androgynephilia is a thing for some men - attraction to someone they know is a man but who looks like a woman.
Bit niche, perhaps. Or maybe not.

Edited for clarity.

theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 26/02/2025 14:30

Whenever asked, if you were to die and come back as an animal, which animal would you want to be - I've always replied a man, because they have an easier life 😂

They can pee stood up, they don't give birth, they don't go through menopause, they rarely have to juggle what a working mum does, they are not the automatic choice when it comes to who should do the housework, and that's all just the tip of the iceberg.

Oh to be a man, it's such a hard life

Helleofabore · 26/02/2025 14:36

I am just waiting for the posters who have written repeatedly that transmaxxers are not transgender. The posters who tell others, despite not being transgender themselves, who is and who isn't transgender.

Do I remember correctly that some of those posters declared Dr Upton as being not transgender too?

It is awfully inconvenient that transmaxxers exist for some people, I think.

Greyskybluesky · 26/02/2025 14:42

Is this related to the Men Going Their Own Way thing from a few years ago that we don't hear so much about now? Did they all go their own way and nobody cared?

I'm more than happy to let them all go their own way together

<waves bye bye> 👋

Chersfrozenface · 26/02/2025 14:45

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 26/02/2025 14:16

Assuming they exist, given tabloid history.

Well Channel 4 found one for episode 5 of "Life Uncovered".

Given humans' limitless ability to do daft things, I don't see why they couldn't"t exist.

inkymoose · 26/02/2025 14:53

MarieDeGournay · 26/02/2025 13:10

Yeah it's so much easier to be a woman, isn't it🙄

🤣🙄

DeanElderberry · 26/02/2025 15:05

So in exchange for not getting cheaper car insurance, probably not getting any sex, and I'm doubtful about the free meals thing these chaps are going to what exactly?

Full disclosure, I have been offered a 'free' meal in the next week, but I have to do three and half hours work first, so it's not quite free exactly. And it's in a place that doesn't afaik do gluten-free anything so it may not be much of a meal.

I don't get the impression these men have really thought things through.

oh dear, was I using logic again?

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 26/02/2025 15:26

And this is why surrogacy is wrong.. this failed man wants to be a trad housewife (f-ed up nonsense already...) but surely the next step is buying a baby.

Kittygolightlyy · 26/02/2025 15:55

😂😂🤷‍♀️

I haven’t read the article, the headline is enough to know that

a) he / they can’t get a woman to have sex with them now because they are repulsive

b) he / they won’t be getting any sex in future either because he / they are now even more repulsive

c) perhaps they’ll get the sex with each other and ‘discover’ that in fact they are gay. And still repulsive.

offmynut · 26/02/2025 16:06

MarieDeGournay · 26/02/2025 13:10

Yeah it's so much easier to be a woman, isn't it🙄

Yeah it is if your a real woman and have kids you get more help.

SionnachRuadh · 26/02/2025 16:07

I don't think they've thought this through. What's the market supposed to be?

There's a niche of men who say they're straight but will cop off with TW. Hence some (mostly young) TW working in prostitution. I don't think it's a very big or lucrative niche.

Gay men have a range of tastes in partners, but they're interested in men, and don't seem to be particularly open to TW. Assuming there are older, wealthy gay men willing to play a sugar daddy role, it would make more sense to present as male. And maybe work on developing a charming personality, but if they were willing to do that they wouldn't be incels.

mrsmalaprop · 26/02/2025 16:20

This is all based on the entirely fantasy assumption that all women can choose to marry a rich man and be kept and that women are constantly having our way in life funded by men.

It's bullshit, which they will find out once they've be-clowned themselves. Although they will no doubt put that down to transphobia.

You can see this on social media all the time. Men wanging on about women having no accountability and 'gate-keeping' sex, while back in the real world, women's choices always come with more severe consequences and sex is a choice where the consequences are more profound than most.

Devilsmommy · 26/02/2025 16:25

EnchantedForestNearTheRiver · 26/02/2025 13:49

There is no lower value man than a man who thinks he’s a woman.

Excellent and completely spot on👌

Devilsmommy · 26/02/2025 16:30

offmynut · 26/02/2025 16:06

Yeah it is if your a real woman and have kids you get more help.

Really, where's this help coming from, I'm intrigued

SwanOfThoseThings · 26/02/2025 16:36

They include cheaper car insurance, free meals and an all-round 'easier' life once you've bagged a 'high-value' man - i.e. someone who is wealthy and attractive, thereby making them 'deeply desirable'.

It's been illegal for years to offer cheaper car insurance based on sex, so that's bollocks for a start.

Good luck to them 'bagging' a wealthy man who'll support them - they'll have to get in a queue behind plenty of other gold-diggers who'll have the advantage of being able to offer Mr Wealthy the possibility of a son-and-heir to inherit his estate.

And they maybe haven't realised that Mr Wealthy can be pretty fussy in his choice of woman; probably wanting someone well above average in looks and/or successful/wealthy in their own right.

Chersfrozenface · 26/02/2025 16:39

I'm trying to imagine an ex-incel transmaxxer as a trophy wife.

I have to tell you that I have not yet succeeded in my efforts.

SwanOfThoseThings · 26/02/2025 16:52

FionnulaTheCooler · 26/02/2025 13:18

To quote from the article "Additionally, the document also argues that transitioning to become a woman makes dating 'easier' as there are more people who could be romantically interested in them".

Is this actually true? I would have thought statistically there would be far less men will to date a transwoman and it would make it harder to find someone.

I don't see how it can possibly be true.

They are eliminating straight women from their dating pool - that must be a far larger cohort than any sector within the LBGT population who might be looking to date a transwoman.

I don't think it is realistic to say they have replaced straight women with straight men - some straight men, possibly, but I would hazard that a significant percentage of that group would be put off by male genitalia and the inability to bear their children.

offmynut · 26/02/2025 16:55

Devilsmommy · 26/02/2025 16:30

Really, where's this help coming from, I'm intrigued

Well you can get benefits housing cm being a single childless woman or man you dont get that help not even housing would help me because i was not a priority as i did not have a child i was offered a tent when i was homeless and i am a woman.
Womens aid said they cant help as they only really help women and children at this point hope that has changed now.
I was not allowed a grant as i was not a low income parent.
Luckly i have good friends and got back on my feet.

Being a single childless woman we are put in the same category as a single childless man.
You only have to google help for single mums and you get plenty of help.

SionnachRuadh · 26/02/2025 17:00

I remember years ago seeing one of those trashy morning shows, Jeremy Kyle or similar, and there was a young woman on there complaining about her family not letting her have the money for a breast enlargement. She didn't seem very bright, and I'm sorry to say wasn't particularly attractive. She had fixated on the idea that if she got her boobs done she'd easily be able to pull a footballer.

Transmaxxing seems to be an idea on the same level of magical thinking.

Devilsmommy · 26/02/2025 17:09

offmynut · 26/02/2025 16:55

Well you can get benefits housing cm being a single childless woman or man you dont get that help not even housing would help me because i was not a priority as i did not have a child i was offered a tent when i was homeless and i am a woman.
Womens aid said they cant help as they only really help women and children at this point hope that has changed now.
I was not allowed a grant as i was not a low income parent.
Luckly i have good friends and got back on my feet.

Being a single childless woman we are put in the same category as a single childless man.
You only have to google help for single mums and you get plenty of help.

But hold on you're proving the point yourself right there that women do have it hard. You're saying that unless you have children then you get fuck all. I was stuck in a homeless hotel when my little one was born and there were plenty of single childless women and men in there also. Sorry that you didn't get the help you needed but as I say you've proved the point yourself