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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I think I'm becoming transphobic

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MyGhastIsFlabbered · 25/02/2025 08:16

I feel unpleasant writing this but I need to put it down somewhere. I know trans people, I have no problem with them and I've always said TWAW. But recently, especially in light of the Sandie Pegge, Beth Upton case my views are changing. I don't have a problem with people wearing what they want, I'm even fine with pronouns.

But I'm starting to believe that you cannot change sex. All the surgery and hormones in the world will not make you a woman. Saying 'I'm a woman' doesn't make it so.

What's worse is that my 15 year old stepdaughter is identifying as male and I just find myself getting so frustrated whenever they refer to themselves as 'a dude'.

Am I transphobic or just realistic? How can I come to terms with my feelings as they are evolving?

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ballettap · 26/02/2025 15:36

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/26/trans-woman-dies-facing-trial-for-raping-young-girl/?ICID=continue_without_subscribing_reg_first

Last line - The official court charge sheet identified Wilson as female. The rape charge stated that Wilson allegedly assaulted a girl “with your penis”.

CocoapuffPuff · 26/02/2025 16:32

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y920n0zj4o

she?????

her????

When in the name of all that farts is this bullshit going to stop?

He's a man
He's a man
He's a fucking MAN

CocoapuffPuff · 26/02/2025 16:34

Oh, but condolences to his nearest and dearest. I'm sure someone somewhere cares, so there ya go. I doubt the families of the wee girls he raped care, but someone may...

GarlicStyle · 26/02/2025 17:13

MyGhastIsFlabbered · 25/02/2025 09:55

@AlisonDonut I assure you I'm not that person. I'm genuinely feeling brainwashed and as a result extremely uncomfortable in my realisation of this. I'm not being disingenuous or trying to prove MN is transphobic.

I'll pick up on this, too, though I didn't see the deleted posts.

I am 'transphobic'.

Being a 'transphobe' means understanding that people can't change sex. Therefore 'trans women' are not women, 'trans men' are not men.
The two sexes are reproductive categories. There are only two.
Woman and man are the names for the two sexes in humans.
Women do not have the physical equipment to produce sperm. No man's body has ever produced eggs. Those things are impossible.

Women and girls have some rights and protections made necessary by the larger, physically stronger male body and the female capacity to gestate. Men have a well-documented tendency to abuse their physical power and to impose unwanted pregnancies on women, so we attempt to protect women from them.

Changing the names we use for the two sexes doesn't alter the bodily facts, so women and girls (female humans) still need some protections from men (male humans).

But changing the names does confuse people's thinking. This is why I don't go along with it.

In an enlightened democracy, no-one has the right to dictate how others must think or the words they use when speaking. Those who try to stop us recognising the facts of human sex are anti-democratic. They call me 'transphobic' for saying so. This is equivalent to calling me a 'thought criminal'.

I'll defend anyone's right to wear what they want, their fundamental rights to work and housing, etc, and even to call themselves any old nonsense that suits them. But they have no right to tell me what to think, to lie about basic human realities, or to threaten women.

Technically, I am a radical feminist so I am also a terf 😎 The 'trans exclusionary' part applies to my feminism, which centres on the realities of living in a female-sexed body. If you deny this reality, you can't be a feminist.

GarlicStyle · 26/02/2025 17:52

The word-changing thing is bonkers, isn't it?

I'm a trans vegan. I require vegan restaurants to serve me trans-tofu steak, cut from the rib of a cow plant.

I identify as innocent of all crimes, therefore I can't be convicted. Better yet, I'm a trans judge; I void any case against me as unlawful.

I'm a trans child. I'm entitled to children's prices..

My trans nationality entitles me to full citizenship of any country I choose.

Since I'm trans short, all 'petite' ranges are transphobic and must include the sizes previously labelled 'tall'.

I'm trans beautiful (obviously) and trans rich. I expect all the privileges enjoyed by rich, beautiful women and will sue if I don't get them. On the days when I'm a trans man, I expect even more privileges!

You could try running some of these past your trans stepdude, @MyGhastIsFlabbered 😂 Just drop them in, a different one every day!

Grammarnut · 26/02/2025 17:59

Sex is not complex. It is binary and comes down to genitals, which - except in the .02% of people who have a DSD - are observed at birth: penis = male, vulva = female. Going further, males are those who produce small, mobile gametes (sperm) and females are those who produce large gametes (eggs). That's it.

RedToothBrush · 27/02/2025 08:22

GarlicStyle · 26/02/2025 17:52

The word-changing thing is bonkers, isn't it?

I'm a trans vegan. I require vegan restaurants to serve me trans-tofu steak, cut from the rib of a cow plant.

I identify as innocent of all crimes, therefore I can't be convicted. Better yet, I'm a trans judge; I void any case against me as unlawful.

I'm a trans child. I'm entitled to children's prices..

My trans nationality entitles me to full citizenship of any country I choose.

Since I'm trans short, all 'petite' ranges are transphobic and must include the sizes previously labelled 'tall'.

I'm trans beautiful (obviously) and trans rich. I expect all the privileges enjoyed by rich, beautiful women and will sue if I don't get them. On the days when I'm a trans man, I expect even more privileges!

You could try running some of these past your trans stepdude, @MyGhastIsFlabbered 😂 Just drop them in, a different one every day!

Ironically much of this sounds like Trump-World!

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