Stonewall loss of jobs and funding after US aid cuts

[Cismyfatarse]

Who knew they were funded via the US government? Not me.

Trump aid freeze ‘may force Stonewall to cut up to half of staff’

www.thetimes.com/article/62cb4fe0-1d91-43f5-a364-bc539eb3234f?shareToken=28cd28f7a1e212f58fca18b4f8ff68b7

My guess would be that funding has fallen substantially across multiple streams but they would prefer to blame Trump/the US government than admit their credibility is shot.

YY, exactly.

My guess would be that funding has fallen substantially across multiple streams but they would prefer to blame Trump/the US government than admit their credibility is shot.

That sounds like it could be a good point. I was surprised, when I got into the article, to read how small the amount of US funding is that they have had in the past and will be losing in future. Surely it can't be critical to their operations?

It literally can't be critical to their operations, because it is attached to a specific project in Eastern Europe.

If I was Mrs Rory Stewart and my funding was withdrawn for that ridiculous project, I would have thought, hey, the grift was good while it lasted. All good things come to an end.

I definitely would not have chucked an indignant hissy fit and drawn attention to what millions of USAID dollars was actually funding. Her husband carried on like funding was being withdrawn for some vital work, not teaching Afghan peasants about why urinals can be art.

Unless of course they were siphoning money off into other, critical areas of the organisation.

Which they would never do.

I do wonder how much of a factor funding was back in 2014(?) when Stonewall were deciding whether they should focus on the 'T', or whether it would be better to focus on LGB issues abroard?

I think this also shows how an ideology that sprouted in the US can be embedded (or at least helping this to happen) into other countries via funding.

Are they a UK charity?
Do UK charities have to declare the country of origin of their funding?

Exporting American concepts and paradigms around the world was a form of soft colonial power.

Look at the notes section of the accounts which gives breakdown of income by named organisation grants etc for direct funding.
Restricted means for a preagreed project

And remember charity donations are tax deductions as are sending staff off on cources or having inhouse training.
So for every £ paid by a Uk taxpayer claiming a tax exemption is a drop in available funding for public services.

https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/charity-search/-/charity-details/3992465/accounts-and-annual-returns

Even then, according to their accounts, staff costs in year ending 31st March 2024 were £5,124,586/ £427,048 a month, so it wouldn't get them very far.

I can remember when women on here were beginning to criticise stonewall. I felt shocked.

I couldn't quite believe it was true that they were actually promoting the abolition of their entire premise.

There must be more to it, it wasn't actually that.

But there isn't, and it bloody was.

I still can't get over the hypocrisy of saying they are for lesbian, gay and bisexual people, when they don't believe in homosexuality. And actively work against it.

And, yes, it's perfectly obvious to anyone that the loss of £233,000 can't account for half their workforce going. Never mind Stonewall Law, they're now promoting Stonewall Accountancy.

And still taking people for fools.

The real cost is in human suffering.
No amount of money can undo the damage that has been done by their hard edged promotion of a toxic ideology.

Yes and I agree with your last paragraph. They just trade off their previous good name to push insane ideas (remember the stuff about two year old knowing their gender identity?).

It’s all arse about tit.

This cut is about Trump refusing foreign , not about supporting the GC cause, and the countries where LGB people are persecuted will feel the loss.

While Stonewall will presumably continue using their core income to fund their legal persecution of people who hold the legal GC position in the UK.

Fucking Stonewall. I took part in so many campaigns when they were fighting for equal age of consent, to repeal Clause 28 etc.

Then they turned on me.

Never mind Stonewall Law, they're now promoting Stonewall Accountancy.

Love this, Datun. Perhaps they could start offering accountancy advice to big organisations as the next grift to replace their diversity training.

For a large charity like Stonewall, with 114 employees (114! What do they all do?), the loss of £200k a year isn't going to be significant, and, as you said, will affect only people involved in that particular project.

If governments want to fund certain charities, they need to be more transparent about it. How much money is given, publishing initiatives and outcomes, and their relationships with the charities - do the charities advise governments for example.

The set up is bonkers, its basically laundering public money so governments dont have to justify who they are subsidising. The public sectors involvement in the stonewalls champions project was simply government giving money to stonewall and pretending that it wasn't.

Millions of us citizens don't get medical care they need due to crappy insurance and denial of claims or not having or being able to access insurance. Their maternal mortality rate in poorer areas is appalling, particularly for black women. Why the hell are they funding stonewall / sending money overseas when so many of their own citizens are suffering? Beggars belief really.

I think it's helpful in all this to remember that Vance comes from a really poor community. It must be enraging to think of US money being pissed away like this when people in the community he came from and others like it are suffering so badly. And they feel as if, and it seems as if, the government don't give a shit.

And yes to this money being used to push a pro-US political agenda. I thought in general progressives were against US interference? I guess only in theory.

Yep

They earned .48m and .75m in 2018 (note 5) on programmes and appeared to spend .9m (note 8)

And note 4 is detailing income from the schools sector which will get slashed as its (mainly) public money

This. 100%. It IS laundering public money.

There is a pragmatic reason why governments fund this sort of thing, people can seek assylum if they can show they would be persecuted for their sexuality. So working with eastern European countries on Lgbt issues is a way of reducing immigration and successful asylum claims.

Stonewall's big concern will be loss of fee income.

"Fee income consists of income from private, public and third sector organisations who join our Diversity Champions workplace inclusion programme or Global Founding Partners programme, annual contributions from schools or Local Authorities joining our School Champions or Children and Young People’s Services (CYPS) Champions programmes, and charges made for providing Stonewall speakers for events or related to bespoke consultancy requests. Total fee income was £2,419,717"

And provided a soft enty to intelligence which was why the Afgan polio vaccination and other health drives in war zones have "issues"

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(14)60900-4/fulltext

This is a very good point.

However, if Stonewall can't provide correct legal advice in the UK, who knows what they are telling people in Romania?

• the CEO has some nerve talking about “victims of a political agenda thousands of miles away” - that’s exactly what women and girls in the UK were, in institutions that implemented misogynistic ‘Stonewall Law’!

Bitterly true - so much of this has been grafted from USA.

I also agree it's probabaly politically easier to blame Trump than admit all their funding been under pressure and they have huge crediblity problems.

The funding cuts over in the USA are a car crash - like their redundancies - some of the foreign food aid was actually more subsidy for farmers as their crops were brought to ship abroad - not to say there wasn't odd funding choices or waste - more someone should explain Chesterton's Fence to them.

Yes, I don't think it's a bad thing that Stonewall are working to improve LGB rights in other countries. But I also agree that you can't trust them to do a good job.