JKR poem to IW - Brilliant

[TwistedWonder]

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1890450465063600510

I’ll get screenshots for anyone not on X but I have to love JKR for this ❤️

@ThisFluentBiscuit

A previous tweet by Willoughby (now deleted)

"How big a van would I need to kidnap Joanna Cherry, Mayo Potato and the witch finder woman?"

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1764662703056998508

Is it time for the
Next in-car based video?
Or to hire a van?

At least JKR
Doesn't threaten to kidnap
Those who disagree.

Tweet now deleted
A surprise to anyone?
Thank God for screenshots!

Is this what kindness looks like in Willoughby World?
Nasty old Sandie and her looking like a normal woman and not threatening to kidnap anyone.

Didn’t Willoughby have JKR investigated by the Police for hate crime for saying Willoughby was a man?

Since there is no medical evidence to support any person’s gender identity, it can then be said to only be philosophical belief of Willoughby’s that Willoughby is not a man.

Willoughby reported her to the police for not believing in the same thing that Willoughby believes. That is abuse.

I remember reading somewhere that the myth that women can't read maps came from the fact that women are more often seen holding a map upside down or on its side. Then some idiots concluded that this was because they couldn't read maps, not that they just find it easier to read if they turn the map according to the direction of travel.

In general, men seem to find it easier to mentally rotate the map so they don't have to physically rotate it.

Satnavs are obviously female.

@ThisFluentBiscuit do you want to play a game of filling in the blanks and guess or research who the three women are and why they were linked

(Hints l
(Elected official debating rights )
(Employee asking the State to uphold rights )

terrorism
noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"the fight against terrorism"

As a person with several minor things wrong with my body (which remains my own correct body, even if I need to assist it with corrective lenses and knee supports), I am so glad that trans rights advocates have stopped using that very offensive 'in the wrong body' language.

The bodies of trans people are just fine, it's their brains that are acting up. The question is how should that brain issue be responded to?

So please could people stop trotting out imagery that has been abandoned even by the genderists.

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/24198233.police-not-investigating-alleged-hate-crime-india-willoughby/

Yep. Wasted police time reporting JKR for a hate crime for calling IW him - after poking and goading JKR non stop.

IIRC - IW threw a hissy fit saying the police were failing to protect trans people.

Here is the list of sources from the Paradox Institute video that I posted up thread. They are a great place to start if you don’t believe anything we have written here on this thread. Because if I remember from recent threads you don’t have a high opinion of this board, you believe it is ‘unsafe’.

So, by all means, go look at these and other sources. But please stop spreading misinformation. Just because you believe it, doesn’t make it true.

Biason-Lauber, A. (2012). WNT4, RSPO1, and FOXL2 in sex development. Seminars in Reproductive Medicine, 30(5).

DiNapoli, L., Capel, B. (2008). SRY and the standoff in sex determination. Molecular Endocrinology, 22(1).

Eggers, S., Sinclair, A. (2012). Mammalian sex determination—insights from humans and mice. Chromosome Res, 20:215-238.

Gershoni, M., et al. (2017). The landscape of sex-differential transcriptome and its consequent action in human adults. BMC Biology, 15(7).

Kim, Y., Kobayashi, A., Sekido, R., et al. (2006). FGF9 and WNT4 act as antagonistic signals to regulate mammalian sex determination. PLoS Biology, 4(6).

Mullen, R., Behringer, R. (2015). Molecular genetics of Mullerian duct formation, regression, and differentiation. Sex Dev, 8(5), 281-296.

Ottolenghi, C., Pelosi, E., Tran. J., et al. (2007). Loss of WNT4 and FOXL2 leads to female-to-male sex reversal extending to germ cells. Human Molecular Genetics, 16(23), 2795-2804.

Prunskaite-Hyyryläinen, R., Skovorodkin, I., Xu, Q., et al. (2016). WNT4 coordinates directional cell migration and extension of the Müllerian duct essential for ontogenesis of the female reproductive tract. Human Molecular Genetics, 25(6).

Rey, R., Josso, N., Racine, C. (2020). Sexual differentiation. In: Endotext. South Dartmouth, MDText, Inc.

Warr, N., et al. (2012). The molecular and cellular basis of gonadal sex reversal in mice and humans. WIREs Dev Bio, 1.

Wilson, D., Bordoni, B. (2023). Embryology, Mullerian ducts (paramesonephric ducts). In: StatPearls [Internet]. Treasure Island (FL): Stat Pearls Publishing.
Wolpert, L., Tickle, C., & Martinez Arias, A. (2019). Principles of Development (6th ed.). Oxford University Press.

Zhao, F., Franco, H., Rodriguez, K., et al. (2017). Elimination of the male reproductive tract in the female embryo is actively promoted by COUP-TFII. Science, 357(6352), 717-720.

Zhao, F., Yao, H. (2019). A tale of two tracts: history, current advances, and future directions of research on sexual differentiation of reproductive tracts. Biology of Reproduction, 101(3).

The book you refer to was written in 1998. I am not even sure that information was considered up to date even then.

Oh, referencing!
Harvard is my favourite
Warms my heart's cockles.

(P.s. not to undermine the excellent resources given by Helleofabore - was just inspired by my love of referencing!)

I lurve them too!
but I always found
them a pain to do.

For those confused about JKR's pen name:

Robert Galbraith may refer to:
• Robert Galbraith (judge) (died 1543), Scottish Lord of Session
• Robert Galbraith fr] (1483−1544), Scottish logician who taught with Juan de Celaya
• Robert Leslie Thomas Galbraith (1841–1924), Irish-born merchant and political figure in British Columbia
• Robert Sharpe Galbraith (1857–1890), Mayor of Tauranga, New Zealand (1889–1890)
• Robert Galbraith (Medal of Honor) (1878–1949), United States Navy Gunner's Mate, 3rd class
• Robert Galbraith, a pen name of Joanne Rowling (born 1965), British novelist, best known by her other pen name, J. K. Rowling

See also

editt*
• Rob Galbraith, photographer and photojournalism teacher
• Robert Galbraith Heath (1915–1999), American psychiatrist

• Robert Galbraith (judge) (died 1543), Scottish Lord of Session
• Robert Galbraith fr] (1483−1544), Scottish logician

Any chance of a come-back in Dundee in July? I'd love to see a Lord of Session and a logician confronting DrU

Not a lady.....🤨

Do the TRAs, people in general think that with her earning the risk to her family are not a consideration? Professionally (for PR) and personally (for nutjobs) she will have someone monitioing SM. Since forever there were companies clipping newspapers on spec or on behalf of clients so even if she had not got evidence she has the financial resources and social reach to find it.

And the police are not facing a random working class woman hoping for legal aid. She is a woman with the financial ability engage most of the legal firms in the UK to represent her through the whole court system. And not even blink at the cost. And still fund her charity work.

I suspect that if need she can show rather the comment being derogatory its fair comment.

This swivel to sex is complicated is obviously the one for today.

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1891114110315544943?s=46

“If a human being has testicles, internal or not, they cannot produce large gametes (eggs) and they are male. Everyone with a DSD is objectively classifiable as male and female. There are no human hermaphrodites.”

Dear me, did some fool tickle a sleeping dragon?

I honestly don't know why India does it, he always turns up unarmed to a battle of wits.

Thanks to everyone for the very interesting information, especially @Helleofabore. Thank you very much indeed for taking the time to post all that. You're clearly much better informed than I am.

Indeed [(edit) thats a reply to murasaki]

Mr X takes on the popo and the press (and JKR)

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/5274016-express-challenges-ipso-on-pronouns?page=2&reply=142216616

I know there are some bad actors who have a fetish. I was talking about the majority of trans people - who don't, and just want to transition and live in peace. Trans people have always been around.

@Helleofabore Thanks so much for posting that long list of resources. I really appreciate it, and will make use of it. The one about the stand-off off the sexes has an interesting title.

@LadyBracknellsHandbagg "Not the old chestnut of male and female brains, seriously?! There’s no such thing."

You can see the differences between typically male and female brains on MRIs. Women's right and left halves typically have more connections, which is why women are usually better at multi-tasking and why men are better at spatial awareness. This is generalising, of course, and there will be a lot of overlap at the individual level.

If there's no such thing as male and female brains, why are the vast majority of engineers men? Why aren't there more female mathematicians? Of course, individual women can make top engineers and mathematicians, but there are far fewer of them at the population level than there are male ones.

Men and women behave so differently and have such different preferences that I can never understand why people try to deny there are sex differences in the brain. At least in general, even if it doesn't apply to every individual. Many parents who have raised both a boy and a girl end up convinced of such.

So how do we tell the difference between the bad actors with a fetish and the other type?

we fight to keep TW out of women’s spaces not because they are trans but because they are men and men however lovely they are, whatever they may wear or however long their hair do not belong in women’s spaces

ThisFluentBiscuit

The regular posters on this board over time develop quite a depth of knowledge because they have felt dissonance in seeing statements that may look convincing until you start trying to work out how it all comes together, or looks just really dodgy from the start or is correct but is being leveraged in a way that the information should be leveraged.

Either way, many of us have actively had the experience of going to find original source information from experts, and we look at any information that is posted to evaluate it. Even information that we disagree with, or from a source we are suspicious of. Because in evaluating it, we can work out if that information means that we need to adapt our thinking.

Often, this board gets written off as being full of hate and being bigoted.

However, the reality is many posters simply have already done the work once they realised that something they were being told was not correct. They push back on misinformation and they directly challenge people's own beliefs. Which some poster's find hugely uncomfortable. For me, personally, I go away to find out more information if I am challenged. Hence, I am like others here who have lots of links that I have posted that I go and find to answer poster's questions.

The testimony last week in the NHS Fife case has brought many new eyes to this board and to the issues we discuss here, in real life and on other social media platforms.

But this case and Dr Upton's doubling down on the language that Upton demands be used around gender identity has caused many more people to now question what really has been scientifically supported, and what has not. If you have a male doctor in the NHS declaring that they are female, not just a 'woman' but a female, people around the world are now taking note.

Many posters on this board accept that there are people with transgender identities who fully acknowledge their sex and respect that their right's expectations should not negatively impact other groups. And we know there are plenty who are extreme in their demands. Countering the misinformation that is spread by those who might have been only reading the extreme transgender rights activists (such as those who claim that a male person can ever be a female person, or who have publicised the 'we are all female' misinformation) needs to be done.

Because, once you realise that something you (general you, not aimed personally) believed was a falsehood, you have to over time come to the realisation that there may be large chunks of information you believe that is only misinformation.

What is known is that hormones cause differences in brains, including taking specific exogenous hormones.

Male brains and female brains have differences due to configuration restrictions from skull shape and size. And there are further genetic differences such as female brains have fibres that are more delicate making female people more susceptible to brain injuries.

And having specific interests creates similarities in brains which has been tracked. The London Cabbies is a good study for this.

If there was any conclusion that could be clearly stated with high confidence, a test focusing on brains would be being used right now to categorise people this way. There isn’t, of course.

We have had some posters post brain studies relating to testing brains of male people with transgender 'affirming treatment' and those without. What was not controlled for in those studies was sexual orientation which has been found and needs to be further studied in the future for male people. The results though was that the male people all had brain scans that fell within the 'male range' of the results. There was no conclusive data found that they reflected 'female ranges'.

Regarding occupations, please don't mix up brains with negative sexist discrimination, or the negative impact of female people having to take time off their careers due to caring duties. Perhaps the more valid question is 'are female people just as skilled as engineers and mathematicians' rather than whether the current employment practices in those fields work against them.

Having watched this current generation of young women go through school, I would say that society very much still has an issue that too large a portion of the girls who are interested in these topics feel that they are 'not girls' because of their interests. I have watched this happen in real life.