Protesters disrupt gender critical discussion at Oxford

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Has this been shared yet:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/437977a2-483b-43dc-bf6d-b111c44b9b08?shareToken=d987606e90e4778acb47a037cfd44702

Jeez. Embarrassing.

Mussolini liked progressive education i.e. discovery learning etc. He was a fascist.

Also, in my experience, a lot of female students seem to be looking for a 'cause' and 'trans rights' fits the bill nowadays. Yes, on message and willing to be disrupters.

"Trans rights" are part of the Omnicause, in which all Good Little Progressives believe.

Gone in 90 seconds
Were my trans protestors the last gasp of campus censorship?
Helen Joyce
16 February, 2025
https://thecritic.co.uk/gone-in-90-seconds/

There's a photo of Helen Joyce and a friend defacing a pride flag and stomping on it. No wonder the students walked out.

There's a photo of Helen Joyce and a friend defacing a pride flag and stomping on it. No wonder the students walked out.
Any chance of a credible source for that claim?

Quite a serious allegation there, Chris.

IIRC the 'progress' bit of the progress flag was cut off, to leave the original rainbow section.

LGB without the TQ+ kind of thing.
Like this > LGB✂T

ETA. I can't remember exactly who was in the photo though.

To be 'progressive' now you have to believe that there are no differences between the sexes, and that everything is socially constructed by 'the patriarchy'. Everything is about 'empowerment'.

Male and female are inter-changeable except for different body parts; and, of course, anything to do with female biology/pregnancy/motherhood is oppressive. Young women see 'women's rights' is about escaping from all of that.

A combination of narratives rooted in 'equality' and 'systemic oppression' perspectives.

It's okay Chris, sit yourself back down. I'll do your work for you.

The incident I believe you're referring to was Helen Joyce's friend who had chopped the chevrons out of the progress pride flag at a protest before Helen had even got to the protest.

It's detailed in Helen Joyce's blog here. So not exactly hidden. https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/joyce-activated-issue-21/

The relevant part:
Soon after arriving I met my friend Jo Campbell, a lesbian activist, who showed me a Progress Pride flag she had chopped up to remove the chevrons added to the original rainbow. [...]
This photo is being interpreted as two white supremacists defacing a flag (for crying out loud, white supremacists?? And Jo would argue that it is the intrusion of these ideological elements into a flag that already represents every same-sex-attracted person that is the defacement). Jo waving at a friend is supposedly a Nazi salute. I’ve even seen claims that we stole the flag from a protester (it’s Jo’s, she brought it with her, already in two pieces, and is planning to add Velcro to the two sides so she can in future make her point more theatrically).
The issue isn’t merely that these specific allegations are invented; it’s that the specifics aren’t the point. The people who hate me and want others to shun me are looking for any mud they can throw at someone they have already declared a target.

(my bolding at the end)

Oh dear, did The Righteous tell a porkie Pious Fraud?

Even if you found a copy of such a picture it proves nothing. It's incredibly easy to change photos - I have managed to put people together in a photo who were certainly not photographed together (book illustration).

I don't know either, but could it be that young women want the option to identify as male or non-binary (because they see women treated so badly), so have to accept the opposite?

Here you go. It's made the rounds on social media I thought you might already have been aware of it.

They appear to be holding and celebrating the pride flag in a respectful manner, while letting the 'progress' bit pool over their feet. The exact opposite of 'stomping'.

Why was it marked ‘sensitive content’? How the hell did we get to a place where a chopped up flag counts as ‘sensitive content’?

Come on MN, WTAF???

Nope not the description you gave @Christinapple try harder or find some semblance of reality in your claims

How are they stomping on it?

honestly what is the point of telling fibs and then offering proof that youve fibbed 😳

defaced i’ll give you but to be fair people could probably argue thate the rainbow flag has been defaced with the triangle bits 🤷🏻

People get really weird about flags.. never understood it tbh.

but even allowing for the ideological stranglehold a chunk of pretty fabric up a pole can have on some groups. That is a real non—event.

But does nicely demonstrate that for very many of us the forced teaming with the T is deeply unhelpful

We ARE already aware of it @Christinapple. It's on this very thread in the link in my post at 9.53. I've also quoted HJ's clear explanation of the background to the photo!

Next you'll be telling us how HJ's friend is doing a nazi salute 😆

So predictable!

People don't celebrate pride by cutting up pride flags and dropping crumpled up parts of it next to their feet while proudly posing. This could also be seen as inciting hate against LGBT IMO people and like I said, it's no wonder the students walked out on her.

Americans get weird about flags. Don’t they pledge allegiance to flags in school? Maybe that’s why it’s lost in translation.

so they didn’t stomp on it?

The woman who chopped the chevrons out is a lesbian. She doesn't like the progress pride flag. It doesnt represent her. The end.

The students didn't walk out on her. They staged a little protest against Helen Joyce. Quite honestly, it's probably a good thing they quit the scene and let everyone else have a proper discussion without them. Some people are just too fragile to handle anything that challenges their world view.

No. It was a symbolic LGB ✂T