Protesters disrupt gender critical discussion at Oxford

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Has this been shared yet:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/437977a2-483b-43dc-bf6d-b111c44b9b08?shareToken=d987606e90e4778acb47a037cfd44702

How they love to try and stop women speaking.
The thing is, I guarantee you most of these protestors will be female, given the university setting.

Masked cowards

Thanks for the share.

Idiots showed themselves to be idiots

I really don't see the point of this other than to seek publicity.

No debate. In Balliol, no less. Ye gods. Whatever happened to critical thinking?

Not so much “there is no knowledge but I know it”, more “lalalala, I cannot hear it, reality is inconvenient”

Well done to the college though:
"As an academic institution within the university, the college saw no grounds to refuse permission for the talk to take place.
Freedom of speech allows views expressed to be tested through argument and debate. The same would apply to a similar event with a speaker of a different view."

Will we get to access to see the speeches after the event? I hope so. I like these university events.

Not quite the publicity they think

On Twitter Helen says

Slander and lies in this article 😉 I was NOT left speechless, briefly or otherwise! I am NEVER speechless!

And it wasnt filmed unfortunately

Ha, yeah, I can't imagine Helen to be speechless (and thank god for that).

''Sex-based concerns' are the thin edge of the Fascist wedge.'

Oh really. If we asked people who fought actual fascists if they agree with that (a certain Mr Orwell springs to mind who was shot in the neck fighting the Fascists in Spain) I wonder if they would agree?

That slogan is utter nonsense.

That did stick out in the article for me 😆

I do wonder if not being filmed was a significant factor in the protest happening in the first place.

Are these supposed to be our brightest and best? Heaven help us.

Archive version of article https://archive.is/Tj0de for when share token expires.

What was depressing if the photos are an accurate representation, the demonstrators were all women.

What with Unison Women voting for TWAW and now this, anyone would think women thought there weren't any actual issues women need bother organising around. eg long list of women's services will be closed thanks to cuts to funding as from 31 March.

Plenty of women in the anti suffrage movement. Quite dim really.

It's really worrying how many young women of today are ignorant of women's struggles of the past.

They're young and think all the previous generations know nothing. In a few years they'll have a change of heart.

...when the damage is done and all services, sports and spaces have become "all gender". Then they'll get middle-aged and angry and start fighting for the women's spaces they gave away.

I think what is different now is that so many young women accept that message that it is more "progressive" to be against women's sex based rights.

And (which I think has been true for each generation) that young women are so keen to show others that they are on message and willing to be the actual disrupters.

I suspect this was deliberate as in terms of images if the photos had shown a lot of men shouting at a woman it wouldn't have looked so good.

I think what is different now is that so many young women accept that message that it is more "progressive" to be against women's sex based rights.

I genuinely don't get this though. How can it be progressive to be against women's sex-based rights? I'd like to understand their thinking.

Also, in my experience, a lot of female students seem to be looking for a 'cause' and 'trans rights' fits the bill nowadays. Yes, on message and willing to be disrupters.

"I think what is different now is that so many young women accept that message that it is more "progressive" to be against women's sex based rights."
@IwantToRetire

Could there be some overlap with not feeling like a "typical woman" and the protections only being for the previous generations who weren't cool enough to exist without them?

Handily forgetting that these protections haven't even existed for that long time and women fought for them to be established.
I see in many areas how the idea of education as teaching people how to look for information and rejecting a set of basic knowledge for everyone in topics like politics, history and economy makes a shared past much more difficult.

Of course education is not only learning of set facts, but these form a basis on which you can start to explore. A lot of knowledge is no longer a common uniting factor and that means at every generation you have to start explaining from the start. It makes you think that there was some intention behind the disintegration of education and introducing tablets in kindergarden.

Much easier to influence people when they don't have any anchor points of knowledge.

It does seem that this generation want to turn their backs on all the previous generations values -they want to believe anyone can be what they feel they are regardless of how nonsensical they are, no matter how much it flies in the face of reality. More than anything they're terrified of being cancelled, of their own generation turning their backs on them if they don't all believe the same thing.
What became of the punks, the teddy boys, the people who wanted to be different?

I don’t know how genuinely new it is and how much it’s just a different manifestation of something we’ve seen before. I’m thinking of young women embracing’ ‘free love’ in the 60s and 70s or ladette culture in the 90s. A lot of the women who did will now look back and feel they weren’t as ‘liberating’ as they thought at the time. Particularly with the latter, they grew up and realised the older women who’d seen it all before and cautioned against it were right after all.