New health minister says there should be no women only toilets ***title edited by MNHQ for accuracy***

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14380901/Health-minister-Ashley-Dalton-women-toilets-LLAMAS-gender.html

1. There should be no women-only toilets
2. There should be no women, only toilets
3. There should be: ‘No! Women-only toilets!’

It’s like the panda and pub story.

Dunno. Sir Keir looks as usual. The new minister is a bit toothy?

Racist ablist twat.

Disproportionately affecting women of colour and disabled women again.

The llama comment prompted Lee Anderson to ask Wes Streeting this question today in HoC

"The new Health Minister has stated that it is okay for a human being to present as a llama. If I have a family member who presents as a llama and suddenly becomes ill in the middle of the night, should I send for a doctor, a vet or a straitjacket?"

WS replied

"I can say to the hon. Member that my hon. Friend the Minister believes in treating every human being with the dignity and respect they deserve—even the hon. Gentleman"

WS replied
"I can say to the hon. Member that my hon. Friend the Minister believes in treating every human being with the dignity and respect they deserve—even the hon. Gentleman"

I wonder what stance Wes Streeting and Ashley Dalton take on Dr "I'm just asking for basic respect" Upton.

I agree we don't need gendered toilets.....we need single biological sex toilets. This person who can't tell the difference between a human and a llama sounds like they have severe mhi.

Tbf, I don't think Streeting could have done much better with his response.

Maybe we should all hire pet Lammas and visit Westminster and let them all poop.

The insult was a little subtle

Camels also have a charming¹ mating display that involves inflating their soft palette so it hangs out of their mouth like a balloon. While orgling.

¹ Perhaps, if you're a female camel.

Is this going to be happening in women's loos?

There will be no chance of getting to the front of the queue during a theatre interval.

Nooooooo!!!!
😱

And- the men will piss all over the floor, the seat, and perform with the door wide open.

My objections are as much practical as ideological.

I used to at 17 have to clean the basement toilets at an old guesthouse/ pub in rural Germany the morning after the night before. We would literally start at the door, aiming a hose at the urinals. Whole room was tiled up to the ceiling, with floor drains. Truly disgusting.

I know we will be told of unpleasant female toilets but they are usually because of infrequent sanitary bin emptying, not puddles of piss everywhere and the knowledge the last (unwashed) hand on the lock had just shoved an unwashed dick back into grubby Y fronts.

Hearteningly, at a DC's uni open day 4-5 years ago, Leeds Arts, I was about to enter a unisex WC when a kind (male) student ambassador quietly pointed out a female WC down a corridor and round a corner to me....

Well, you won't be alone.

I didn't. Because Labour could also not identify to me what a woman is.

As time has passed, I recognise I was correct to not vote for this sorry shower. I am genuinely stunned at the generally poor quality of their government. There is not a serious states-person among them. They lack credibility at all levels.

At the time, we had the likes of that twat Alistair Campbell mocking us for this stance as he couldn't understand why such a fringe issue like women's rights should sway anyone. But I feel vindicated now.

I think the continuing rise of reform will whip a some of the other parties into a firmer stance on this issue. They will realise they can't deny reality to our faces and continue to rely on our votes.

Well, probably not the greens or lib Dems, but to avoid continuing haemorrhaging of support from lab+con, this is likely one of the things they will try. Reform topped a poll for the first time this week.

I doubt you'll be alone on that one

Surely you mean re-education secretary?

Yep, the poor cleaner has to get inside the cubicle to scrub the walls now - you can’t just hose it into a drain. IRL the cleaners are more likely to leave ‘chunks’ as their job is time limited and difficult. Norovirus, when you’ve got both ends going at the same time, is one I have had to deal with. Much easier when there’s a gap at the bottom of the doors and partitions so you can hose the whole lot down to drain out.

Is she an actual woman or is that a duff photo?

Yeah, same.

This time last year when I said I couldn't vote for a party that pretends not to know what a woman is, people were telling me that the most important priority was to sort the country out after 14 years of Tory misrule.

I said I understood that, but I couldn't see any indication that Labour were capable of sorting the country out. I do feel vindicated now.

I am forgetting the name of the one right behind, but in that photo the three of them look like they are at a casting session for a Zombie movie.

(A real woman. I suspect that our own ideas of what normal women look like are skewed by the women we see in the media.)

So much for ‘the adults being back in the room’ as people were crowing after Labour won the election 😬 (not saying the last shower of a government was any better mind you).

Yeah, the last government - at least the last three PMs - didn't set a very high bar to say the least.

And since Labour weren't saying much about policy, a huge part of their pitch was competence. They kept trying to sell us on the idea that Starmer was a brilliant lawyer, Reeves was a brilliant economist, and the whole country would become much better just by having these top class people in charge.

I'm surprised at how shocked I am by their performance. I've never been a fan of Starmer, but I thought at least he's a career bureaucrat, he'll be good at the boring parts of government that Boris couldn't be bothered with.

I didn't know we were electing Frank Drebin.

Time for everyone with a Labour MP to send an angry letter off. Worth referencing the Sandy Peggie case while we're at it.