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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Animal experimentation related to gender identity ideology and sex reassignment surgery.

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FlowchartRequired · 09/02/2025 15:26

I'm sure that anyone who saw it will always remember the rat experiment.

https://www.the-scientist.com/study-that-impregnated-male-rats-stirs-controversy-68928

On another thread, Icake mentioned this video on Youtube. The rat experiment is, as many of us suspected, the tip of the iceberg.

'9 Feb 2025
At Thursday's House Oversight Committee hearing, witness Justin Goodman Senior Vice President at the White Coat Waste Project, spoke to Rep. Shontel Brown (D-OH) about gender transition experiments on animals'.

How many more labs around the world are experimenting on animals in this way? How much suffering is this causing?

I never want to hear or read 'be kind' again!

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AlisonDonut · 09/02/2025 15:40

It is so utterly vile, has anyone got any links to animal rights activists who are horrified about this?

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 09/02/2025 15:43

I saw something else on YouTube that gave details of the experiments that were conducted on the animals in the 'trans' gender study's, quite frankly I was sickened.

I know that some experiments have to be done on animals in order to develop medicines that save human lives but these experiments were in no way necessary or needed and it amount's to nothing more than animal cruelty. I hope any animal rights charities in the USA used the information that's now being released to call for charges to be made against these Dr Mengele's. 🤬🤮

oakleaffy · 09/02/2025 15:43

Bloody disgraceful!
No Animals should be suffering, especially not for trans stuff.

Animals aren’t humans.
Experiment on human volunteers.

FlowchartRequired · 09/02/2025 15:58

AlisonDonut · 09/02/2025 15:40

It is so utterly vile, has anyone got any links to animal rights activists who are horrified about this?

I have just looked on the PETA website. I searched for 'Gender' and organised by date. Latest entries are 3 days ago and all contained the same phrase that is nothing to do with this issue. See screenshot.

Animal experimentation related to gender identity ideology and sex reassignment surgery.
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FlowchartRequired · 09/02/2025 16:04

'241 million dollars spent on transgender animal testing' and this is 'the floor and not the ceiling' and that it is probably a lot more.

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Helleofabore · 09/02/2025 16:22

That was a remarkable witness statement. And it is remarkable also as to how quiet the media has been about this.

Testing cross sex hormones and observing the effects on the bodies of animals, then going even further and testing the sensitivity changes to chem sex party drug overdoses on female rats who have been dosed with testosterone previously. All for medical treatments that have not been shown overall to improve the mental health outcomes for minors, and it could be argued the long term mental health or health of any person undergoing these treatments. All for what is now being shown to have only philosophical belief as a commonality.

AlisonDonut · 09/02/2025 16:23

My hope is that this really IS just fraud and funnelling money to activists and not actually harming animals but that's such a fuckwad of money I'm staggered just who the hell signed off on this.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 09/02/2025 16:31

Trump said the first time around he was going to drain the swamp, this is the swamp he was talking about. I only hope it can't happen in the UK, I can't say I'm any expert but I sure we have many regulations regarding animals used in testing that would prevent this sort of outrage from happening. 🙏

FlowchartRequired · 09/02/2025 16:32

The second video posted by Theywont, mentions that 'Dr Fauchi funded about 95% of the transgender animal experiments.'

I believe that this is him. https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md

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EmpressaurusKitty · 09/02/2025 16:35

This is horrific. And we all know that neither PETA nor any of the other animal rights groups are going to say anything about it because they’re too cowardly.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 09/02/2025 16:40

FlowchartRequired · 09/02/2025 16:32

The second video posted by Theywont, mentions that 'Dr Fauchi funded about 95% of the transgender animal experiments.'

I believe that this is him. https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md

Here's Mr Goodman saying so

This will be the same Dr Fauci Trump withdrew protection from.

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Chersfrozenface · 09/02/2025 16:43

FlowchartRequired · 09/02/2025 15:58

I have just looked on the PETA website. I searched for 'Gender' and organised by date. Latest entries are 3 days ago and all contained the same phrase that is nothing to do with this issue. See screenshot.

AFAIK PETA are against all animal testing.

I guarantee they won't speak out on this issue specifically. Too much overlap with supporters of GII.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/02/2025 16:56

Not wishing to derail - just pointing out that in the UK the NHS has been conducting an unethical mass social and medical experiment on sex change for children and young people in plain sight for years. All funded and enabled by the political and medical establishment. So it's unsurprising that harming animals is par for the course for supporters of this ideology.

TurtlesDoNotPetsMake · 09/02/2025 17:00

Awful. The same as the meat and dairy industry. It will never end.

FizzingAda · 09/02/2025 17:10

Awful. Whenever there have been threads about the bad consequences of gender surgery and the problems caused by this mutilation, I have often mentioned the animals that this surgery would have been tested on. It is probably under the umbrella of 'healthcare' in the UK. I haven’t watched the above video as I can't unsee it. I wonder how many people who have had these surgeries call themselves animal lovers.

AlisonDonut · 09/02/2025 17:12

FlowchartRequired · 09/02/2025 16:32

The second video posted by Theywont, mentions that 'Dr Fauchi funded about 95% of the transgender animal experiments.'

I believe that this is him. https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md

He has already been pardoned by Biden. For anything he did back to 2014 I think. Great huh?

Crouton19 · 09/02/2025 17:20

If there is profit to be made, unnecessary harm to animals won't stand in the way.

MarsScarlet · 10/02/2025 00:11

I've gone to the actual source. The witness questioned by Senator Crane is an animal rights lobbyist from a group called 'White Coat Waste'. There is only one experiment out of a list that involved surgery on mice - the others primarily were drug involved. It isn't something I agree with either, but - and this is a large but - I do know that any research HAS to jump through many ethics hoops. Every institution has ethics committees that approve all research. At the first stages of medicines, particularly, we cannot test on humans.

That said, it isn't something I like. I used to have to walk by my institution's animal facility, and hearing the monkeys inside just being monkeys wasn't pleasant.

Just take care here with the Republicans' motivations. They aren't just taking aim what they consider wasteful, or woke - they are looking to shut down all research. I wouldn't be cheering it on.

Chersfrozenface · 10/02/2025 04:35

Animal rights campaigners are on to a good thing attacking experiments like this.

Most of the population tend to think "Well, if it's to save lives and alleviate human suffering..." and to countenance experimentation on animals for those reasons.

In most people's minds gender transition experiments don't come into that category. They will be against them.

NotBadConsidering · 10/02/2025 05:44

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/02/2025 16:56

Not wishing to derail - just pointing out that in the UK the NHS has been conducting an unethical mass social and medical experiment on sex change for children and young people in plain sight for years. All funded and enabled by the political and medical establishment. So it's unsurprising that harming animals is par for the course for supporters of this ideology.

Yes, it would be a hell of a twist if experimenting on children wasn’t enough, but experimenting on lab rats is the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

Not that any of this should be done at all, of course, before anyone thinks I’m ok with experimenting animals. I’m not.

AliasGrace47 · 10/02/2025 05:48

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 09/02/2025 16:31

Trump said the first time around he was going to drain the swamp, this is the swamp he was talking about. I only hope it can't happen in the UK, I can't say I'm any expert but I sure we have many regulations regarding animals used in testing that would prevent this sort of outrage from happening. 🙏

Why didn't he drain it in the first term?? Or did he & Biden reinstated?

GrammarTeacher · 10/02/2025 05:52

FlowchartRequired · 09/02/2025 16:32

The second video posted by Theywont, mentions that 'Dr Fauchi funded about 95% of the transgender animal experiments.'

I believe that this is him. https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md

This sounds highly unlikely based on the numbers you posted. Is there another source that verifies it?

Testing on animals is I’m sure like anything else in America, less regulated than here.

I also find it a difficult one as at an ethical level I really don’t like it at all (particularly now computer modelling is so good). But I’m here today because of drugs that were tested on animals.

MarsScarlet · 10/02/2025 05:57

And this is the issue. Much of the focus on the NIH, the WHO and research in general is a vendetta against Dr Fauci.

Chersfrozenface · 10/02/2025 06:08

But I’m here today because of drugs that were tested on animals.

And as I say, a large proportion of the population would be OK with experiments that lead to life-saving treatments.

The answer is easy - stop gender identity related experimentation.

Those funding and approving it were idiots. Not least for not foreseeing the eventual effects of the inevitable backlash on research which might be considered more worthwhile.

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