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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Positive aspects of trans?

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eatfigs · 23/01/2025 22:03

Now that one of the most powerful men on the planet has put his weight behind ending the influence of gender identity ideological beliefs on American government policy, I think it's fair to assume this is the beginning of the end for trans activism, not just in the US but globally.

Maybe a eulogy is premature but it got me thinking about some of the arguably more positive aspects of trans that will be on the way out too.

Such as, I like their underlying message of non-conformity with sex roles. Why shouldn't we all wear what we please, regardless of our sex? There's nothing wrong with a man wearing a dress or a woman wearing trousers and a shirt.

I also like how much of the original intent, back when trans was considered a manifestation of gender dysphoria, was to be accommodating to individuals with a medical condition that caused them significant distress. Like we make accommodations for many other vulnerable or marginalised groups.

Finally I appreciate how trans gives many people a sense of community in a world that in hostile to individuals who don't conform to society's expectations. Trans activism in particular gives them a purpose.

I still fundamentally disagree with their beliefs, and everything positive I mentioned above is sullied with all the harmful nonsense they layered on top of it. But I just wanted to give a thoughtful nod to the underdog on its way down.

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lechiffre55 · 27/01/2025 16:50

@Cailleach1
Only a man who was invited to The Whitehouse would flash his tits on the Wh lawn afterwards to celbrate "womanhood".

Chuchoter · 27/01/2025 16:57

'There's nothing wrong with a man wearing a dress or a woman wearing trousers and a shirt.'

Would you walk down the street if your husband looked like this?

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11834723/amp/Im-heterosexual-man-wear-heels-skirts-office-wife-doesnt-mind.html

I bloody well wouldn't.

GoldenGate · 27/01/2025 17:36

Gender ideology DEPENDS ON stereotypes, not eradicating them. Otherwise men wouldn't think growing their hair and wearing dresses made them any kind of women. Men are welcome to dress that way within normal limits of decency but gender ideology would die if there was no assumed distinction in dress or demeanour.

RedToothBrush · 27/01/2025 17:55

Gender ideology relies on sex to define them as trans otherwise what are they transing from?!

They know their sex.

lechiffre55 · 27/01/2025 18:35

@RedToothBrush
There are so many inherent contradictions, that it's clear logic and reason a low on the priority list.
e.g. TWAW - Well if they are women why do you need to call them trans women to identify who you are talking about in the first place?
It's a religion that's in its death rattle thanks to Trump.

WandsOut · 28/01/2025 00:58

RedToothBrush · 27/01/2025 17:55

Gender ideology relies on sex to define them as trans otherwise what are they transing from?!

They know their sex.

They know their sex and they know the sex of the people they are trying to emulate. The gap between the two is an ocean.

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