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Horrifying Republican response to Bishop's sermon

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JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 03:20

These are tweets from Matt Walsh on X about Bishop Marian Budde and her sermon earlier today in Washington, attacking her womanhood and ability in a sexist and ageist tirade. It seems the clarion call has gone out to the rest of the Trump X minions, as they are all tweeting the same sentiments - including Kellie-Jay Keen and Donald Trump Jnr. Rep. Mike Collins całłed for her deportation, although she is American. Do you still support Trump after this?

“A liberal woman over the age of 50 with a lesbian haircut is guaranteed to support the most evil ideas and policies that mankind has ever conceived.”

“Just take one look at this witch and you know everything you need to know about her, even before she starts talking.”

“Of course this grotesque display is coming from a female “priest.” You will only ever hear heresy and inanity from someone whose whole existence is blasphemous.”

And another tweet from Bo Loudon: “🚨BREAKING: A bishop at the National Cathedrol just urged President Trump to protect transgender children and not deport illegal aliens because "they're not criminals."

Pure class from President Trump as he sat through this despicable politicization of the prayer service.”

Speech text:
““In the Name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now,” Budde stated. “There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican and independent families. Some who fear for their lives.

”The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meat-packing plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens, or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals.”

Budde asked Trump “to have mercy” on people “in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away and that you help those who are fleeing warzones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here.

“Our God teaches us that we are to be merciful to the stranger, for we were all once strangers in this land,” she continued. “May God grant us the strength and courage to honor the dignity of every human being, to speak the truth to one another in love, and walk humbly with each other and our God.”

Earlier in her message, Budde stressed the importance of unity, of respectfully disagreeing with one another, but also expressed concern over what she called “the culture of contempt” and feared “the loss of equality” for some who lose in political debates.

What a horrible, divisive message this is! 🙄 Personally, I think Budde's message is courageous and beautiful, and clearly deeply Christian at its core.

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kiterunning · 22/01/2025 19:04

Pray for the children who have been enabled to remove their genitals.

Zita60 · 22/01/2025 19:25

OldCrone · 22/01/2025 07:06

Saying children can be transsexuals is not compassion.

I don't disagree with that. That's why I referred to people "she thinks are vulnerable".

The main point was about compassion and mercy, and that asking the president to show compassion and mercy isn't a political statement, because it's supposedly part of the religion that she is a minister of and he claims to belong to.

Mittens67 · 22/01/2025 19:26

Trump has led the way in highly personal and abnormally hateful attacks on anyone he disagrees so his supporters feel emboldened to copy him.
He refuses to criticise violence perpetrated in his name so his followers feel free to do whatever they want.
Therefore this woman is enormously brave in speaking out.
Immigrants in the US must be utterly terrified now. Whilst I do not agree with trans activism and abhor the involvement of children in this delusion I would never want anybody to be in genuine fear of their safety no matter what their views. The US is awash with guns. There is now a president who is very happy to stoke hate, encourage division and release violent convicted criminals. It is not a safe country for anybody who doesn’t fall in line with Trump and his supporters.
I have no time for religion at all but asking for mercy and compassion in this way is absolutely what religious leaders should be doing now. I bet most will either be too scared of personal consequences or are themselves extreme right wingers who think Trump is sent by god as many are claiming.
I don’t see what this woman has said as an attack on Trump or a political statement, simply a humanitarian one trying to appeal to his better nature.
Sadly he doesn’t have one.

SinnerBoy · 22/01/2025 19:36

Mittens67 · Today 19:26

Trump has led the way in highly personal and abnormally hateful attacks on anyone he disagrees so his supporters feel emboldened to copy him.

I know, he's such a pathetically thin-skinned, whiny crybaby hypocrite, isn't he?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 22/01/2025 19:36

illinivich · 22/01/2025 17:45

Among their concerns is that a total ban on marriage of minors could be a slippery slope and impede constitutional rights or reproductive choices, including access to abortion.

Is there anything thats not a slippery slope to removing abortion rights?

This is US liberal "logic": take issue A, pretend that it's somehow related to issue B, and use a slippery slope argument that links B to A to prevent activists from campaigning on B.

See also:

  • DSDs and trans people, because stopping Lia whatshisface from competing in the female category somehow stops women with DSDs from being legally considered women.
  • Butch lesbians and trans people, because stopping men from using women's changing rooms will stop butches from using women's changing rooms.
  • Abortion and trans people, because ending a pregnancy because you don't want to be life support for a foetus for nine months is exactly like taking exogenous oestrogen for effectively cosmetic reasons.
  • Prison rape and prisons existing at all, because apparently the solution to male-on-male rape in prisons is to release all the criminals so they can rape anyone in the country, not just their fellow inmates.
OvaHere · 22/01/2025 19:42

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 22/01/2025 19:36

This is US liberal "logic": take issue A, pretend that it's somehow related to issue B, and use a slippery slope argument that links B to A to prevent activists from campaigning on B.

See also:

  • DSDs and trans people, because stopping Lia whatshisface from competing in the female category somehow stops women with DSDs from being legally considered women.
  • Butch lesbians and trans people, because stopping men from using women's changing rooms will stop butches from using women's changing rooms.
  • Abortion and trans people, because ending a pregnancy because you don't want to be life support for a foetus for nine months is exactly like taking exogenous oestrogen for effectively cosmetic reasons.
  • Prison rape and prisons existing at all, because apparently the solution to male-on-male rape in prisons is to release all the criminals so they can rape anyone in the country, not just their fellow inmates.

Also - if you say men are not women you're also saying black women are not women too. Always a favourite batshit argument that one.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 22/01/2025 19:50

OvaHere · 22/01/2025 19:42

Also - if you say men are not women you're also saying black women are not women too. Always a favourite batshit argument that one.

Because melanistic skin is exactly like having a penis and Black women can cause pregnancies just like men can 🙄

The logic fail of these people is outright racist at times.

OldCrone · 22/01/2025 20:01

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Danja2010 · 22/01/2025 20:05

AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 06:29

These people that have just started the end of the child mutilation and sterilisation regime/network/programme? Yeah, real disgraceful and cruel.

I think you did not listen to Bishop Budde’s speech .

TheCatsTongue · 22/01/2025 20:09

What's the aim here? We should be aghast at what some random politician has said, so consequently disagree with the EO over trans ideology, and as a predominantly UK based website gather the troops to medically transition and castrate American children?

Danja2010 · 22/01/2025 20:10

Mittens67 · 22/01/2025 19:26

Trump has led the way in highly personal and abnormally hateful attacks on anyone he disagrees so his supporters feel emboldened to copy him.
He refuses to criticise violence perpetrated in his name so his followers feel free to do whatever they want.
Therefore this woman is enormously brave in speaking out.
Immigrants in the US must be utterly terrified now. Whilst I do not agree with trans activism and abhor the involvement of children in this delusion I would never want anybody to be in genuine fear of their safety no matter what their views. The US is awash with guns. There is now a president who is very happy to stoke hate, encourage division and release violent convicted criminals. It is not a safe country for anybody who doesn’t fall in line with Trump and his supporters.
I have no time for religion at all but asking for mercy and compassion in this way is absolutely what religious leaders should be doing now. I bet most will either be too scared of personal consequences or are themselves extreme right wingers who think Trump is sent by god as many are claiming.
I don’t see what this woman has said as an attack on Trump or a political statement, simply a humanitarian one trying to appeal to his better nature.
Sadly he doesn’t have one.

Exactly this : Thank You !! American here who is horrified by the ugliness Trump will unleash . There will be deaths because of his dangerous rhetoric and easy access to guns .

illinivich · 22/01/2025 20:14

Stating that there are two sexes and its impossible to change sex will lead to death?

AliceNutterWasAWoman · 22/01/2025 20:17

Please do not worry about the good Bishop. She will be suffused with the joy of the righteous 🙄
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. Matthew 5: 11-12

Jacquette · 22/01/2025 20:18

Mittens67 · 22/01/2025 19:26

Trump has led the way in highly personal and abnormally hateful attacks on anyone he disagrees so his supporters feel emboldened to copy him.
He refuses to criticise violence perpetrated in his name so his followers feel free to do whatever they want.
Therefore this woman is enormously brave in speaking out.
Immigrants in the US must be utterly terrified now. Whilst I do not agree with trans activism and abhor the involvement of children in this delusion I would never want anybody to be in genuine fear of their safety no matter what their views. The US is awash with guns. There is now a president who is very happy to stoke hate, encourage division and release violent convicted criminals. It is not a safe country for anybody who doesn’t fall in line with Trump and his supporters.
I have no time for religion at all but asking for mercy and compassion in this way is absolutely what religious leaders should be doing now. I bet most will either be too scared of personal consequences or are themselves extreme right wingers who think Trump is sent by god as many are claiming.
I don’t see what this woman has said as an attack on Trump or a political statement, simply a humanitarian one trying to appeal to his better nature.
Sadly he doesn’t have one.

Great post.

quixote9 · 22/01/2025 20:27

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 22/01/2025 18:49

The majority of undocumented aren't paid that way. They work for large businesses.

In the UK, I had to show my passport and prove that I had the right to work here when I applied for my last and current jobs. My passport number remains on my HR records.

I'm startled that the US lacks such a system.

Yes. Dirty little secret of the US zomg-illeeegalz situation: any effective measures, i.e. anything besides Big Guys With Guns and lots of razor wire, is immediately shot down by business lobbies. They're desperate not to lose a captive workforce they can underpay and who can't complain. There was a brief period under (I think?) Dubya aka Bush II, where they implemented some employer rules. Georgia was facing a failed peach harvest, Alabama was in some kind of serious trouble (it was a while ago so I don't remember), California was managing because they weren't enforcing it, etc etc. It took about three weeks before they rescinded it all and never mentioned it again.

TheCatsTongue · 22/01/2025 20:53

When I heard the bishop, I thought immediately that she's only doing it for the fame. I don't know whether she believes in any of it, but unsurprisingly she now has the notoriety she desired and has her 15 minutes of fame for parroting the same old tropes about trans children.

RayonSunrise · 22/01/2025 21:05

TheCatsTongue · 22/01/2025 20:53

When I heard the bishop, I thought immediately that she's only doing it for the fame. I don't know whether she believes in any of it, but unsurprisingly she now has the notoriety she desired and has her 15 minutes of fame for parroting the same old tropes about trans children.

I'd not previously realised JUST how anti-Christian this board is. Is it due to Atheism, or just thinking Jesus was a wuss with his "kindness and mercy" thing?

CathyFisher · 22/01/2025 21:05

OldCrone · 22/01/2025 18:26

It's unlikely that the poster you're replying to has met a so-called "trans child" since they've said that they don't believe that children can be transsexual.

What makes you think that children can be transsexuals?

Because I know them and their parents and they are now very happy trans adults - at least they were until yesterday

thicklysettled · 22/01/2025 21:08

Jacquette · 22/01/2025 03:39

I thought she was brave too, OP. And I suspect it wasn’t easy for her because her voice sounded like she had a bit of the trembles (although it could be that she speaks like that normally).

I don’t know what the ‘x minions’ are complaining about - they are all for free speech.

I hope I could be as brave as she was if needed.

She typically speaks that way - very softly spoken. The power is in the content of her preaching, not the delivery, IYKWIM. I have heard her preach in person a few times - she's a phenomenon (and, quite rightly, a local legend!)

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 22/01/2025 21:14

quixote9 · 22/01/2025 20:27

Yes. Dirty little secret of the US zomg-illeeegalz situation: any effective measures, i.e. anything besides Big Guys With Guns and lots of razor wire, is immediately shot down by business lobbies. They're desperate not to lose a captive workforce they can underpay and who can't complain. There was a brief period under (I think?) Dubya aka Bush II, where they implemented some employer rules. Georgia was facing a failed peach harvest, Alabama was in some kind of serious trouble (it was a while ago so I don't remember), California was managing because they weren't enforcing it, etc etc. It took about three weeks before they rescinded it all and never mentioned it again.

Late-stage capitalism at its finest.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 22/01/2025 21:17

RayonSunrise · 22/01/2025 21:05

I'd not previously realised JUST how anti-Christian this board is. Is it due to Atheism, or just thinking Jesus was a wuss with his "kindness and mercy" thing?

One thread criticising one bishop makes the whole board anti-Christian? That's quite a reach.

Perhaps you'd "not previously realised" because we aren't actually anti-Christian?

Brainworm · 22/01/2025 21:23

"'I'd not previously realised JUST how anti-Christian this board is. Is it due to Atheism, or just thinking Jesus was a wuss with his "kindness and mercy" thing?"

I think many (possibly most) posters on this board are grounded in material and evidence-based reality. I don't think it's anti-Christian per se. I think it's more of a matter, as Darwin observed, that it's hard to be persuaded that there is a beneficent God who would have designed and created parasitic wasps that paralyses other species other creatures and place their larvae within them with the express purpose of eating them alive.

OldCrone · 22/01/2025 21:37

Brainworm · 22/01/2025 21:23

"'I'd not previously realised JUST how anti-Christian this board is. Is it due to Atheism, or just thinking Jesus was a wuss with his "kindness and mercy" thing?"

I think many (possibly most) posters on this board are grounded in material and evidence-based reality. I don't think it's anti-Christian per se. I think it's more of a matter, as Darwin observed, that it's hard to be persuaded that there is a beneficent God who would have designed and created parasitic wasps that paralyses other species other creatures and place their larvae within them with the express purpose of eating them alive.

It's also difficult to understand why God would suddenly, in the last few years, have started to put large numbers of male souls in female bodies, and vice versa.

Brainworm · 22/01/2025 21:45

"It's also difficult to understand why God would suddenly, in the last few years, have started to put large numbers of male souls in female bodies, and vice versa."

Well, Cartesian dualism is very out of favour these days and it rare to find a philosopher, and even rarer to find a scientist, suggesting the mind and body are separate entities. Developments in cognitive science and imaging show us that thoughts are generated by material/physical/neural activity in the brain. This includes thoughts about 'minds', 'souls' and Gods - go figure!

Mischance · 22/01/2025 21:52

mids2019 · 22/01/2025 05:11

At the end of the day a country of 300 million people have made their decision democratically on a president. Obviously some do not like his policies but for a woman of the cloth to so publically politicise a speech to embarrass a sitting democratically elected leader was wrong. Imagine if Keir Starmer visited a hospital and the CEO in a speech basically called him shit; he or she would lose their job.

Her speech was not about politics - it was about compassion as a central tenet of Christianity, the religion she represents. What is the point of clerics if they do not propound the basic tenets of their religion?