Horrifying Republican response to Bishop's sermon

[JessaWoo]

These are tweets from Matt Walsh on X about Bishop Marian Budde and her sermon earlier today in Washington, attacking her womanhood and ability in a sexist and ageist tirade. It seems the clarion call has gone out to the rest of the Trump X minions, as they are all tweeting the same sentiments - including Kellie-Jay Keen and Donald Trump Jnr. Rep. Mike Collins całłed for her deportation, although she is American. Do you still support Trump after this?

“A liberal woman over the age of 50 with a lesbian haircut is guaranteed to support the most evil ideas and policies that mankind has ever conceived.”

“Just take one look at this witch and you know everything you need to know about her, even before she starts talking.”

“Of course this grotesque display is coming from a female “priest.” You will only ever hear heresy and inanity from someone whose whole existence is blasphemous.”

And another tweet from Bo Loudon: “🚨BREAKING: A bishop at the National Cathedrol just urged President Trump to protect transgender children and not deport illegal aliens because "they're not criminals."

Pure class from President Trump as he sat through this despicable politicization of the prayer service.”

Speech text:
““In the Name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now,” Budde stated. “There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican and independent families. Some who fear for their lives.

”The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meat-packing plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens, or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals.”

Budde asked Trump “to have mercy” on people “in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away and that you help those who are fleeing warzones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here.

“Our God teaches us that we are to be merciful to the stranger, for we were all once strangers in this land,” she continued. “May God grant us the strength and courage to honor the dignity of every human being, to speak the truth to one another in love, and walk humbly with each other and our God.”

Earlier in her message, Budde stressed the importance of unity, of respectfully disagreeing with one another, but also expressed concern over what she called “the culture of contempt” and feared “the loss of equality” for some who lose in political debates.

What a horrible, divisive message this is! 🙄 Personally, I think Budde's message is courageous and beautiful, and clearly deeply Christian at its core.

I'm not denying they're undocumented. Just mentioning the fact that they do get taxes taken out of their wages. As another commenter mentioned, if paid in cash totally under the table, then indeed, no taxes taken out. The majority of undocumented aren't paid that way. They work for large businesses. (Anyway, what were we talking about here? Oh yes, the cleric speaking. Good for her for speaking up. Yes, not many trans people in the areas where they really might get shot on sight. Women are in much greater danger always and everywhere. Also from the magats who aren't doing any of this two-sexes stuff because they want women to be safe and free. Oh well. Only another four or five hundred years to wait, right?)

Which posts did I deliberately misunderstand?

And I'm discussing things aren't I? If you don't understand the inference I made then i am happy to explain it. You only have to ask.

Why can't you tell us what was so horrific about KJKs actual words? You brought her up, so have the gumption to explain why her words were so horrific.

and have a high rate of suicide

This is categorically not true.

"Agreement" equals support. I'm not saying supporting everything he stands for - no. I'm seeing more support than just one EO.

America appears to be shuffling towards Handmaid's Tale.

@AlisonDonut

Why can't you tell us what was so horrific about KJKs actual words? You brought her up, so have the gumption to explain why her words were so horrific.

Alison. Please go back to the post where I said KJK's tweet, in itself, was not horrific. It was the combined coordinated response of all the tweets that was horrific.

I'm not sure what's so difficult about this for you.

Agreed.

Undocumented people do pay tax. Check your facts before spouting racist rhetoric

I thought she was incredibly brave.

I wouldn't normally agree with a person of the cloth politicising a speech, but neither should a politician claim he is the chosen one, saved by God to carry out God’s will. That is incredibly dangerous talk - terrifying in fact - and it needed calling out - and publicly.

Trump looked momentarily uncomfortable beneath his arrogant scowl. And his reaction shows he was riled. So it was a job well done.

Well there’s your problem isn’t it? You think that agreements on some things equals “support”. It doesn’t. It means agreement on one thing. In this case biological reality. Probably also water makes things wet. And the sky is blue. This is not general “support” for an individual.

If you have seen more than this for Trump, you should direct your generic “you” more specifically to those people.

Should people be abusing the bishop? No. Of course they can express dismay at her choice of groups to specifically highlight in that particular occasion, if she chose to focus on those groups specifically and not also a range of others. What other groups did she include? But she should not be abused for her decision.

On the other hand, whoever chose to include her in that ceremony, knew of her political views as she has been publicly vocal. So this inclusion in her section of the proceedings should not have been unexpected.

However, no one should be abusing her.

Many GC women don’t believe there’s such a thing as a “trans child” and labelling them as such seeks to reinforce and validate gender ideology, which we consider deeply harmful to children.

If she had used a more generic phrase such as “ vulnerable children”, that would have been fine.

Also, there are not “high rates of suicide” among the trans community. This is a myth that’s often repeated and multiple suicide charities have implored people to stop saying this because it’s not true and is damaging.

I agree under Trump’s government there will be many people who fear for their lives. His rhetoric amplifies division and hate, and he emboldens racist, xenophobic individuals. ” Trans children” don’t need a special mention in this. He’s not seeking to gun them down or remove them from the country.

Autistic girls make up a large proportion of “trans” youths, so as an autistic woman myself, I care very much about these children. I completely understand how difficult they may find the world. I just don’t agree that labelling them as trans or singling them out is helpful or the best way forward for anyone.

I personally could never have voted for Trump. I flit between anger and absolute dismay that he’s been allowed to even run for office. I can’t even look at his face on TV, I’m so unbelievably upset that he’s President again. But I understand, like in the U.K., gender identity was the primary concern for some voters and if that’s the case, it’s no wonder the Democrats lost. The trouble is that in the US there’s not any alternative- it’s the presentation of two extremes. He’s an awful man who’s corrupt to the core and he has awful, hateful policies. I’m deeply uncomfortable that he’s the one who’s willing to recognise biological reality and I wish more than anything that the Democrats could have seen the damage that was being inflicted.

Even the biased report linked had to say 'some people pay some tax'.

Often underneath this statement they actually mean the tax they pay when they purchase something. Framing everything you don't like as racist instead of addressing the actual issue is what led us here.

I'm currently living in the 4th country that I've lived in, I know a little about getting into a system.

You said 'It seems the clarion call has gone out to the rest of the Trump X minions, as they are all tweeting the same sentiments - including Kellie-Jay Keen and Donald Trump Jnr.'

And her response wasn't 'tweeting the same sentiment'. But yet you just had to include her for some reason. I'm trying to work out if you really think Trump put out a call to KJK in the UK to tweet about her thoughts on the satireness or otherwise of the tweet or whether you are just here to stoke division.

Tax again? We all now know that undocumented migrants in the USA do in fact pay tax. Thanks to PP for pointing this out.

I thought Trump was uncharacteristically restrained in his response to this.

The sermon was inappropriate. She was there to conduct a holy service, but she used the opportunity to make political points knowing he had no right of reply. It's somewhat astounding (the hypocrisy) given that all the major religions frown (to one degree or another) upon same sex relationships; religious teaching has made acceptance difficult for same sex relationships.

History is leaving people like this woman behind. She's clearly very annoyed about that.

@NotBadConsidering

Well there’s your problem isn’t it? You think that agreements on some things equals “support”. It doesn’t. It means agreement on one thing. In this case biological reality. Probably also water makes things wet. And the sky is blue. This is not general “support” for an individual.

You're not convincing me. Perhaps you should look up the thesaurus entry for 'agreement'. (And I didn't say "general support" for Trump.)

Was it coordinated? I would expect the commentators you mention to feel as they do and express it and that this would be done quickly after the event. No need to coordinate.

Given the massive harms visited on women and children by having this damaging agenda forced onto a largely-unconsenting public, you can expect some commentary.

So you believe that expressing support for one executive order that was written by a feminist lawyer and signed by Trump, hereby bounds everyone who expresses that support for that one thing to everything he is, was, and ever will be and everything he has done, does and will do?

You’re not convincing me either. I think you’re just another “look who you’re aligned with” purity spiral poster like the umpteen before.

Lying to confused children about reality is not compassionate either.

It's ridiculous to say that there have always been transsexual children.

Transsexual children are a recent invention, designed to help middle aged men who transition, by supporting the myth that those middle aged men were always trans, even when they were very young children. The purpose of the existence of transsexual children is to sanitise transsexualism and to turn it into something wholesome that even children can be involved in.

Or as one TRA put it, children "demystify it and take the sex right out of the trans experience.”

She’s not wrong about trans people being at risk either, despite what you may know about UK suicide rates. In the US there has been a demonstrable increase in suicide rates of young trans/non-binary people in states that have enacted anti-trans legislation. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-024-01979-5

The hysteria continues 🙄

@AlisonDonut

And her response wasn't 'tweeting the same sentiment'. But yet you just had to include her for some reason. I'm trying to work out if you really think Trump put out a call to KJK in the UK to tweet about her thoughts on the satireness or otherwise of the tweet or whether you are just here to stoke division.

Ah. You're just being perverse. Of course, by saying "I assumed this was a skit, a stitched video…. But it’s actual real," KJK thought the video of the Bishop might be a comedy!

Except, she said this above a retweet that said "This made my blood boil. Absolutely repulsive!" And the disgusting comments under that tweet can leave you in no doubt what was meant.

You know what is going on here, Alison.

You linked to a paper about 'suicide attempts'. Not 'suicide rates'. Which as we know, have been self reported rather than hospital or medical reported.

Can you post a link to your evidence about 'suicide rates'?