Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Horrifying Republican response to Bishop's sermon

663 replies

JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 03:20

These are tweets from Matt Walsh on X about Bishop Marian Budde and her sermon earlier today in Washington, attacking her womanhood and ability in a sexist and ageist tirade. It seems the clarion call has gone out to the rest of the Trump X minions, as they are all tweeting the same sentiments - including Kellie-Jay Keen and Donald Trump Jnr. Rep. Mike Collins całłed for her deportation, although she is American. Do you still support Trump after this?

“A liberal woman over the age of 50 with a lesbian haircut is guaranteed to support the most evil ideas and policies that mankind has ever conceived.”

“Just take one look at this witch and you know everything you need to know about her, even before she starts talking.”

“Of course this grotesque display is coming from a female “priest.” You will only ever hear heresy and inanity from someone whose whole existence is blasphemous.”

And another tweet from Bo Loudon: “🚨BREAKING: A bishop at the National Cathedrol just urged President Trump to protect transgender children and not deport illegal aliens because "they're not criminals."

Pure class from President Trump as he sat through this despicable politicization of the prayer service.”

Speech text:
““In the Name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now,” Budde stated. “There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican and independent families. Some who fear for their lives.

”The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meat-packing plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens, or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals.”

Budde asked Trump “to have mercy” on people “in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away and that you help those who are fleeing warzones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here.

“Our God teaches us that we are to be merciful to the stranger, for we were all once strangers in this land,” she continued. “May God grant us the strength and courage to honor the dignity of every human being, to speak the truth to one another in love, and walk humbly with each other and our God.”

Earlier in her message, Budde stressed the importance of unity, of respectfully disagreeing with one another, but also expressed concern over what she called “the culture of contempt” and feared “the loss of equality” for some who lose in political debates.

What a horrible, divisive message this is! 🙄 Personally, I think Budde's message is courageous and beautiful, and clearly deeply Christian at its core.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
18
legalimmigrant · 23/01/2025 14:24

It's funny also how the 'only.3% of the population' doesn't seem to apply when it's people feeling scared of Trump. THEN we all have to JUMP to action for a tiny minority. But it doesn't matter when it's women feeling scared of males flashing in their toilets. Well fuck that shit.

There was a time I had sympathy for transsexuals. I still do for those who recognise biological reality and have sympathy for me as a woman and children too- people like Miranda Yardley. However for those who've showed through their actions they give not a tiny fuck about me or my children's safeguarding. I give zero fucks in return.

Tough shit, they created the situation where a vast majority of Americans preferred Trump. They can suck it up now, they're only -.3% so it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, does it?.

izimbra · 23/01/2025 14:45

"It's funny also how the 'only.3% of the population' doesn't seem to apply when it's people feeling scared of Trump"

You mean if it's just a very small minority we can stop worrying about them being victimised and oppressed?

Jewish people made up less than 1% of Germany's population in 1933. Does this mean the fear they must have felt at growing public antipathy towards them and changes in the law that impacted on their freedoms weren't important?

izimbra · 23/01/2025 14:47

"Tough shit, they created the situation where a vast majority of Americans preferred Trump."

Transgender people are responsible for fascism - for being transgender?

izimbra · 23/01/2025 14:48

BTW - 'the vast majority of voters' did not prefer Trump.

The majority of voters - more than 50% - either voted for Harris or didn't vote.

izimbra · 23/01/2025 14:49

Should read:

"BTW - 'the vast majority of Americans' did not prefer Trump.

The majority of those eligible to vote - more than 50% - either voted for Harris or didn't vote.

izimbra · 23/01/2025 14:50

This is how insane terfs have got,

Blaming less than 1% of the population for the rise of fascism. By being transgender.

legalimmigrant · 23/01/2025 14:53

So .3% doesn't matter if it means the wholesale destruction of the rights of 50% of the population, but otherwise we have to bend over backwards for that .3%.

Got it, it's misogyny.

legalimmigrant · 23/01/2025 14:54

Also I don't care if that's what you think. I just don't care and you can't convince me and I know most of the American public feel the same. It's not going to work any more.

There were plenty of Americans who felt they couldn't vote Trump but didn't vote Harris on this issue.

Beowulfa · 23/01/2025 14:55

Republicans have used people's fear of transgender people as a political tool. They've poured vast energy (and money) into putting out messages framing the simple existence of transgender people as an enormous problem.

They didn't need to spend energy and money; the Democrats helpfully provided them with a vote-winning strategy for free.

As VP, Kamala Harris gave cosplayer Dylan Mulvaney a special White House certificate for taking the piss out of women.

Biden legislated for men to cheat women out of College sports scholarships. The kind of scholarships that working class families really value.

All the Trump campaign had to do was remind voters of this.

lcakethereforeIam · 23/01/2025 14:55

I've just watched a tiktok from a woman non-binary, bewailing the EO. She They too evoked the holocaust. Then had then utter lack of self awareness to say that in four years she'd they'd still be there. Not the words of someone who's seriously envisioning the hell that the Jewish people had inflicted on them. It would be funny if only the comparison wasn't so vile.

legalimmigrant · 23/01/2025 14:58

The comparison of men not being allowed in women's toilets but only having mixed sex or men's toilets to choose from to what the Jews suffered in the Holocaust is incredibly anti-semitic.

And it makes anyone doing it look deranged too.

Pootlemcsmootle · 23/01/2025 15:03

How bizarre that a bishop delivers a sermon about mercy and people jump on it and say she shouldn't have been political. It's like the most Christian worship 101 speech of all time. Love thy neighbour and all that.

If you think a bishop asking people to show mercy is too political then Jesus wept, we're in real trouble with our politics aren't we.

biscuitandcake · 23/01/2025 15:06

legalimmigrant · 23/01/2025 14:24

It's funny also how the 'only.3% of the population' doesn't seem to apply when it's people feeling scared of Trump. THEN we all have to JUMP to action for a tiny minority. But it doesn't matter when it's women feeling scared of males flashing in their toilets. Well fuck that shit.

There was a time I had sympathy for transsexuals. I still do for those who recognise biological reality and have sympathy for me as a woman and children too- people like Miranda Yardley. However for those who've showed through their actions they give not a tiny fuck about me or my children's safeguarding. I give zero fucks in return.

Tough shit, they created the situation where a vast majority of Americans preferred Trump. They can suck it up now, they're only -.3% so it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, does it?.

To get back to the point of this thread though. What you say might well be a perfectly logical/reasonable argument. It is not very Christian however. The Bishop, presumably, is a Christian and therefore took a mainstream Christian angle in the church service she was delivering. If she had said she wanted JKR to die, or started wishing bad things on Trump (as many TRA types do) I agree that would be inappropriate. But she didn't.

Incidentally, a tiny proportion of the population's rights shouldn't be allowed to usurp/harm another part of the population. I agree there. But, no matter how tiny the population/person/creature, they and their fears do still matter in the grandest scheme of all grand schemes of things. If you don't believe that its fine. But its not very fair to castigate a bishop delivering a sermon for believing it.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2025 15:35

Beowulfa · 23/01/2025 14:55

Republicans have used people's fear of transgender people as a political tool. They've poured vast energy (and money) into putting out messages framing the simple existence of transgender people as an enormous problem.

They didn't need to spend energy and money; the Democrats helpfully provided them with a vote-winning strategy for free.

As VP, Kamala Harris gave cosplayer Dylan Mulvaney a special White House certificate for taking the piss out of women.

Biden legislated for men to cheat women out of College sports scholarships. The kind of scholarships that working class families really value.

All the Trump campaign had to do was remind voters of this.

This is the thing. There is all these strands coming together.

The % of people now directly impacted has grown in one way or another in the past four years since Biden got in.

We have had more male people taking the places of female athletes and winning their accolades.

People in the USA have seen the male people who have been celebrated by the President and Vice President for being ‘female’. Male people being celebrated for becoming ‘first female to achieve [insert achievement]’ by the President.

We have had the Cass report and the court cases around the world.

And then the Democratic Party continued this trajectory they started and refused to listen to feminists. Female athletes were harassed for speaking up and there was no censure from the Democratic Party leadership. Detransitioners spoke and were effectively ignored.

Female people are imprisoned with male prisoners and are being harmed, but no one from the Democratic Party was doing anything about it.

But none of this is acknowledged at all. Instead we have the same grind of guilt by association, false accusations of ‘alignment’ and on and on and on. Not one shred of acknowledgement on the failings of the Democratic Party to act or to even listen.

lcakethereforeIam · 23/01/2025 15:37

Did she ever ask the TQ+ community to show some empathy to women? And not in a 'father forgive them they know not what they do'? Did she ask them to show compassion? I bet it never even occurred to her. Although I'd love to be proven wrong. If the response to this sermon is a bit much, what if she'd asked for compassion for terfs? She wouldn't even dare.

I've seen her photo. Perfectly normal haircut.

Mischance · 23/01/2025 16:04

She asked that compassion be shown to everyone - it is a central tenet of her faith and she would have been failing in her duty as a cleric if she had not said what she did.

izimbra · 23/01/2025 16:15

"Did she ever ask the TQ+ community to show some empathy to women?"

She could have asked black people to show some empathy for racists, who are terrified of becoming the victims of black crime - many to the extent that they've chosen to move away from areas in which they live, to areas with fewer black people in.

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE RACISTS 😭😭😭

TheCourseOfTheRiverChanged · 23/01/2025 16:20

AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 08:28

Trump I imagine. Just for the reaction.

I have a sneaking suspicion you're right.
I'm (reluctantly) impressed with how a man who inherited such wealth is able to position himself as downtrodden, under the heel of the elites.
People on this thread have described Bishop Budde as "speaking truth to power" and it makes sense to see it that way from one perspective.
But if you don't share Bishop Budde's wealth, status, education and cultural capital the optics of this are very different. People whose families and communities have been disparaged and disrespected by the authorities of the mainstream Church for generations will see Trump being chastised and unable to speak up to defend himself in that service.

AliceNutterWasAWoman · 23/01/2025 16:30

izimbra · 23/01/2025 16:15

"Did she ever ask the TQ+ community to show some empathy to women?"

She could have asked black people to show some empathy for racists, who are terrified of becoming the victims of black crime - many to the extent that they've chosen to move away from areas in which they live, to areas with fewer black people in.

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE RACISTS 😭😭😭

Women equivalent to racists? Are you sure you're a feminist🤔

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 23/01/2025 16:51

AlisonDonut · 23/01/2025 13:00

Are you saying that nobody got put into jail for posting on social media?

They might have gone to jail for Mal Comms. When has anyone from MN gone to jail for posting here?

illinivich · 23/01/2025 17:00

izimbra · 23/01/2025 11:45

Did they?

Like the people who got prison sentences following the recent race riots were 'banged up for nothing more than criticising illegals on social media'. 🤔

Why are you being sarcastic about women being stopped from talking about safeguarding?

So you think i am lying, or do you think safeguarding is not that important?

AliceNutterWasAWoman · 23/01/2025 17:01

Mischance · 23/01/2025 16:04

She asked that compassion be shown to everyone - it is a central tenet of her faith and she would have been failing in her duty as a cleric if she had not said what she did.

She specified gay, lesbian and transgender children, undocumented migrants and asylum seekers.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 23/01/2025 17:02

izimbra · 23/01/2025 14:47

"Tough shit, they created the situation where a vast majority of Americans preferred Trump."

Transgender people are responsible for fascism - for being transgender?

  1. The EO isn't fascist.
  2. Trump voters also mostly aren't fascist. Several red states voted to protect abortion at state level on the same ballot paper that they elected Trump on. NY went red for Trump and blue for AOC, which is not the vote of a fascist.
  3. Trans people didn't cause this EO by being trans. They caused it by claiming privileges to use single-sex spaces, privileges that no one else, denying women our rights in the process.
selffellatingouroborosofhate · 23/01/2025 17:05

izimbra · 23/01/2025 14:49

Should read:

"BTW - 'the vast majority of Americans' did not prefer Trump.

The majority of those eligible to vote - more than 50% - either voted for Harris or didn't vote.

That argument didn't overturn the Brexit result.

If you want to win a vote, you have to persuade people to vote for you and then get them out to vote.

AlisonDonut · 23/01/2025 17:13

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 23/01/2025 16:51

They might have gone to jail for Mal Comms. When has anyone from MN gone to jail for posting here?

But, they did go to jail for posting words online?