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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGBT Champion has been struck off for racism

99 replies

Gingernaut · 14/01/2025 07:38

An LGBTQ+ champion who worked as a manager in in a women's mental health unit has been struck off for racist comments

In 2016, Sussex Police offered an apology for sending a letter addressing Jaden Rachel Dios Hole as Mr Hole

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-36737692

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14281009/Nurse-charge-womens-psychiatric-unit-struck-racially-aggravated-incidents.html

Rachel Dios

Sussex Police apology over hate crime letter

A nurse who reported a transphobic hate crime receives an apology from the chief constable of Sussex Police after the force addressed her as "Mr".

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-36737692

OP posts:
BeBraveLittlePenguin · 14/01/2025 08:19

It's odd, because TRA always seem like such nice people.

ElangaScores · 14/01/2025 08:20

Imagine changing your name and calling yourself Hole. Whatever could be the reason for that?

kiterunning · 14/01/2025 08:24

What a charmer.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/01/2025 08:24

ElangaScores · 14/01/2025 08:20

Imagine changing your name and calling yourself Hole. Whatever could be the reason for that?

And then getting a job working on a women's ward with mentally unwell women. Well done the NHS for yet again failing to prioritise vulnerable women.

QuetzalTerfLus · 14/01/2025 08:27

Interesting paragraph towards the end of the Daily Mail article:

“Part of the case was held in private as the defence were concerned the case would be reported as 'a trans-identifying man working on a psychiatric ward who is found to be impaired'.”

It’s evident that lawyers for the NHS routinely ask, and presumably often get, anonymity in any cases involving trans individuals.

A transwoman being in charge of a female psychiatric ward - why aren’t the public allowed to know about this from the get-go?

elgreco · 14/01/2025 08:31

Just the right kind of guy mentally ill women need to take care of them!

CrocsNotDocs · 14/01/2025 08:33

Kudos to the Mail journalist for avoiding any pronoun use at all. One way to get around the press’s requirement to refer to these men as she,

Lovethatforyouhun · 14/01/2025 08:35

Sorry but this constant BS is making me feel unwell. No one in this shitty country cares about women or girls.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/01/2025 08:36

QuetzalTerfLus · 14/01/2025 08:27

Interesting paragraph towards the end of the Daily Mail article:

“Part of the case was held in private as the defence were concerned the case would be reported as 'a trans-identifying man working on a psychiatric ward who is found to be impaired'.”

It’s evident that lawyers for the NHS routinely ask, and presumably often get, anonymity in any cases involving trans individuals.

A transwoman being in charge of a female psychiatric ward - why aren’t the public allowed to know about this from the get-go?

Maybe #nodebate? Or maybe there was also abuse of women on the ward that the NHS are desperate to keep hidden? Remember the women raped on a hospital ward by a transwoman and NHS staff lied to the woman and the police - told them that it was impossible as there were no men present?
The NHS have previous for concealing offences committed by a certain group.

HRTQueen · 14/01/2025 08:36

How many woman applied for the role this trans identifying racist man went for

i hate the politics of the NHS it makes my blood boil

AlbertCamusflage · 14/01/2025 08:38

It is very frightening becoming a patient in a mental health ward. Even for voluntary patients there is a horrible sense of loss of agency, of no longer having a voice that has to be heard (rather than just being regarded as uttering symptoms of your illness).
I can't begin to imagine how far that fearfulness and loss of self must be escalated by the presence of a male ward manager (of a woman's trauma unit!) that you are required to perceive as female.

Gingernaut · 14/01/2025 08:42

This has so many questions up in the air

There are some awful pictures of Hole on the Internet

How was Hole not accused of bringing the profession into disrepute?

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OuterSpaceCadet · 14/01/2025 08:51

AlbertCamusflage · 14/01/2025 08:38

It is very frightening becoming a patient in a mental health ward. Even for voluntary patients there is a horrible sense of loss of agency, of no longer having a voice that has to be heard (rather than just being regarded as uttering symptoms of your illness).
I can't begin to imagine how far that fearfulness and loss of self must be escalated by the presence of a male ward manager (of a woman's trauma unit!) that you are required to perceive as female.

This.

What our institutions are doing to the most vulnerable women in society in order to provide protection/ titillation to men who declare special identities is utterly fucked up.

nauticant · 14/01/2025 08:55

I got a paywall for the Daily Mail article so found an archived version here: https://archive.ph/xSsda

heathspeedwell · 14/01/2025 09:08

Interesting that Hole reported a 'hate crime' to Sussex police because some men Hole walked past said, 'it's a man.'

The police referred to Hole as 'Mr' Hole and so Hole immediately posted it on Twitter, and said: "I am happy to stand up for the trans community but for anyone living in multiple occupancy accommodation they would have been outed," ...
"A mistake is not acceptable.
"The first thing with any trans individual is to ask them how they would like to be addressed - how do they identify - especially when they are reporting a hate crime."

So random strangers on the street recognised that Hole is male but Hole still wanted to waste loads of police time and money on misgendering, just in case Hole was 'outed' as male to people Hole may have hypothetically shared accommodation with. No wonder police don't have time to investigate actual crimes.

scandista · 14/01/2025 09:12

@BeBraveLittlePenguin 😀

My thoughts exactly

GailBlancheViola · 14/01/2025 09:39

And then getting a job working on a women's ward with mentally unwell women. Well done the NHS for yet again failing to prioritise vulnerable women.

A ward for women suffering mental health issues due to sexual trauma no less.

Apparently as soon as this person got the job said person moved their office onto to the floor where the women sleep.

I am so sick of women being used and abused in this way.

Taytoface · 14/01/2025 09:47

I will say it again. It is always fucking Brighton.

MorrisZapp · 14/01/2025 09:53

And they're always fucking 'co-chairs'.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 14/01/2025 09:54

heathspeedwell · 14/01/2025 09:08

Interesting that Hole reported a 'hate crime' to Sussex police because some men Hole walked past said, 'it's a man.'

The police referred to Hole as 'Mr' Hole and so Hole immediately posted it on Twitter, and said: "I am happy to stand up for the trans community but for anyone living in multiple occupancy accommodation they would have been outed," ...
"A mistake is not acceptable.
"The first thing with any trans individual is to ask them how they would like to be addressed - how do they identify - especially when they are reporting a hate crime."

So random strangers on the street recognised that Hole is male but Hole still wanted to waste loads of police time and money on misgendering, just in case Hole was 'outed' as male to people Hole may have hypothetically shared accommodation with. No wonder police don't have time to investigate actual crimes.

Also, even assuming Hole was not being disingenuous and genuinely thought this was an outing risk if it were to happen to someone else, it still betrays the usual total lack of appreciation about how women actually exist in the world.

Women get stuff addressed to Mr from time to time, and men get stuff addressed to Mrs (the former more often probably simply because male is the socially default sex). If it's important we contact the sender to correct it. Most of the time we shrug and move on.

Literally no one in a shared house is going to see one piece of mail addressed to "Mr Surname" instead of the usual "Ms Surname" and immediately conclude Ms Surname who up until now they've known as a woman must really be a man.

All the above comments assuming Hole was acting in good faith of course, and not just an activist seeing an opportunity to leverage a minor mistake into publicity about the horrible horrible challenges trans people can face and how trans people need even more special care and privilege to mitigate this.

SeethingHarpie · 14/01/2025 09:55

Jaden
Rachel
Dios
Hole

As far as I’m aware, Dios = God, so Dios Hole = God Hole.
It reminds me of the Drag Queen names chosen for maximum outrage.

Cailleach1 · 14/01/2025 09:57

He has worked in psychiatric healthcare for three decades, according to the article.

Some very sexualised ‘nursie’, and scant clothing photos online. Allegedly this person. Imagine female patients, and female nurses having to pretend that this person is a woman. It must be very stressful to work in such a hostile environment where your colleague is doing a piss take of you every day.

I see it is only when he wanders into racial transgressions he is regarded as de trop. Quite right, of course. Yet he was given a free rein to insult women. Treated as an extra special for doing so, even.

I am calling him a man, as that is what he is biologically. Irrespective of however he says he identifies in his own head. As the Forstater case pointed out this is the mainstream view. It is scientifically correct, and I don’t promote flat earthism or belief in fairy tales.

I do apologise in advance, but I’m afraid I won’t call a person a horse or a giraffe either, even if that is what they claim is how they identify in their own head.

Cailleach1 · 14/01/2025 10:04

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/01/2025 08:36

Maybe #nodebate? Or maybe there was also abuse of women on the ward that the NHS are desperate to keep hidden? Remember the women raped on a hospital ward by a transwoman and NHS staff lied to the woman and the police - told them that it was impossible as there were no men present?
The NHS have previous for concealing offences committed by a certain group.

Edited

Was a case ever taken against their lying to the police, I wonder? Surely giving false information would be obstruction of justice or aiding in the cover up of a crime or something.

SabrinaThwaite · 14/01/2025 10:11

Dios was a Sexual Safety Collaborative Project Lead whilst working for NHS Sussex on a low security women’s mental health ward. The kind of place where women have had traumatic sexual experiences.

And it seems Hole was throwing around Nazi comments at colleagues too.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/24836245.sussex-nurse-sacked-series-racist-incidents/

Hole is now a mental health practitioner for a homeless charity.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 14/01/2025 10:20

AlbertCamusflage · 14/01/2025 08:38

It is very frightening becoming a patient in a mental health ward. Even for voluntary patients there is a horrible sense of loss of agency, of no longer having a voice that has to be heard (rather than just being regarded as uttering symptoms of your illness).
I can't begin to imagine how far that fearfulness and loss of self must be escalated by the presence of a male ward manager (of a woman's trauma unit!) that you are required to perceive as female.

Yes. Who thought it was a good idea to put a man who is clearly living out a fantasy and who posts, er, unusual photos of himself online, in charge of mentally vulnerable women? Many of those women may have been sexually abused, as this often damages the victim’s mental health.

But the important thing is to validate his feelings and to show the modern NHS does not discriminate against unsuitable candidates or prioritise the patients.