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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How many MNers will join me in applying for a GRC??

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QueenDoria · 29/12/2024 23:40

having read on another thread that it only costs £5 to apply for a GRC, how many MNers will join me in applying to ‘become’ a man?
one’s legal status as a mother will not change, and I’m sure we’ll all see a 20% uplift in our wages…
We might get turned down if the panel gets an inkling we might be insincere, but, for the sake of a fiver, we could swamp the application process…
#legalfallacy

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Maaate · 31/12/2024 11:16

AngelAva · 31/12/2024 10:50

🙄

You know not caring if your nasty behaviour upsets other people isn't something to be proud of or roll your eyes at. That's what bullies do. And this thread reads like a hand of bullies in a playground mocking someone they don't like.

"nasty" 🙄

It's always telling which threads the scolds comment on and which they leave alone.

If pointing out the flaws in a system is nasty, what do you have to say about directly reporting these flaws to the body that oversees the system and causing checks notes 'extra difficulties and delays'

Fuck all I imagine 🙄

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 31/12/2024 11:22

AngelAva · 31/12/2024 10:36

What a nasty thread.

You've set the bar on nasty way, way to low, you need to up you game, crawling around on the bottom is not a good choice to make.

AngelAva · 31/12/2024 11:25

southbiscay · 31/12/2024 10:50

Why is it nasty Ava? The vast majority of women on here would appear to understand that:
a) it is not possible to change sex;
b) a diagnosis of gender dysphoria relies on sexist stereotypes, and, as a result:
c) people should not be able to obtain a piece of paper from the Government stating that for all purposes (apart from from inheriting a feudal title or something) they are effectively members of the opposite sex.

When you look at the matter in the cold light of day it is ridiculous. And ridiculous things attract ridicule.

Furthermore, the only person on this thread who is pushing back has provided incoherent and contradictory arguments. Rather than just calling the thread nasty, please, please advance arguments in favour of the GRA and GRCs. I have been in the gender wars for 11 years but I am STILL open to hearing arguments that mean I can forget all about it and get on with my life. Until then I will keep fighting for the sex based rights of women. Over to you.

I'm not interested in joing your "gender war". I've wasted days of my life down your rabbit hole and I've had enough. You are free to get on with your own life at any time, no one is stopping you but you.

Anyone claiming that this thread is mocking the process and not trans people, when almost every comment is a mocking caricature of a transgender person is lying.

Lindisfarm · 31/12/2024 11:26

Christinapple · 30/12/2024 13:11

https://archive.ph/iyCFo

I reported this thread to them so they are aware fraudulent applications may be made.

It never takes long for you to arrive does it @Christinapple ?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2024 11:28

I'm not interested in joing your "gender war". I've wasted days of my life down your rabbit hole and I've had enough.

And it convinced you that male people were women if they said so, did it?

Lindisfarm · 31/12/2024 11:29

BaronessBomburst · 30/12/2024 13:37

Is that Christ in Apple, or Christina Apple, but missing an A?

I thought it must actually be Christopher.

misscockerspaniel · 31/12/2024 11:35

Ooh you are awful but I like you

QueenDoria · 31/12/2024 11:43

AngelAva · 31/12/2024 10:50

🙄

You know not caring if your nasty behaviour upsets other people isn't something to be proud of or roll your eyes at. That's what bullies do. And this thread reads like a hand of bullies in a playground mocking someone they don't like.

maybe. Or maybe the real bullies are the meanies who found a loophole in the playground rules and now insist all the girls stay in at playtime while they boot footballs around the playground in maryjanes and gingham dresses. In the meantime, the girls (the actual biological ones) are stuck inside tidying up and told not to complain…

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QueenDoria · 31/12/2024 11:45

maybe. Or maybe the real bullies are the meanies who found a loophole in the playground rules and now insist all the girls stay in at playtime while they boot footballs around the playground in maryjanes and gingham dresses. In the meantime, the girls (the actual biological ones) are stuck inside tidying up and told not to complain…

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QueenDoria · 31/12/2024 11:45

Oops. Posted twice. Told you I needed a secretary.

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Lindisfarm · 31/12/2024 11:58

AngelAva · 31/12/2024 10:36

What a nasty thread.

Oh another one has popped up.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 31/12/2024 11:58

AngelAva · 31/12/2024 11:25

I'm not interested in joing your "gender war". I've wasted days of my life down your rabbit hole and I've had enough. You are free to get on with your own life at any time, no one is stopping you but you.

Anyone claiming that this thread is mocking the process and not trans people, when almost every comment is a mocking caricature of a transgender person is lying.

I'm interested as to why you're here, posting, as you are so busy and don't have time for such nonsense.

its interesting how people love to stop by to criticise, but then are apparently too busy to engage by explaining why we're all wrong. But not too busy to keep posting. Just too busy to post anything of substance. It's so tedious.

Incidentally I think it's a bit nasty to accuse me of lying when I tried to engage with you. I don't appreciate being told I'm lying - if you have a problem with my posts, take it up with MN. You cannot speak to the contents of another person's mind, therefore you have no idea what I might have meant beyond what I actually wrote.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how the concept and process of the GRC isn't total illogical nonsense...

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Bodeganights · 31/12/2024 13:01

AngelAva · 31/12/2024 11:25

I'm not interested in joing your "gender war". I've wasted days of my life down your rabbit hole and I've had enough. You are free to get on with your own life at any time, no one is stopping you but you.

Anyone claiming that this thread is mocking the process and not trans people, when almost every comment is a mocking caricature of a transgender person is lying.

Mine mocks pockets, if I need to be a legal man to keep my giant (very very useful) pockets, so be it.
If the system is so designed that all I need is a fiver and a drs note, then the system is wrong.

Brefugee · 31/12/2024 13:03

totes forgot, where i live i only have to go to the town hall and tell them. HA!

AngelAva · 31/12/2024 14:15

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 31/12/2024 11:58

I'm interested as to why you're here, posting, as you are so busy and don't have time for such nonsense.

its interesting how people love to stop by to criticise, but then are apparently too busy to engage by explaining why we're all wrong. But not too busy to keep posting. Just too busy to post anything of substance. It's so tedious.

Incidentally I think it's a bit nasty to accuse me of lying when I tried to engage with you. I don't appreciate being told I'm lying - if you have a problem with my posts, take it up with MN. You cannot speak to the contents of another person's mind, therefore you have no idea what I might have meant beyond what I actually wrote.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how the concept and process of the GRC isn't total illogical nonsense...

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Posting another comment and reading a few more takes 5 minutes. I have 5 minutes. Joining the "11 year gender war" would take all day. If not 11 years. And I quite simply don't have that long.

I would have thought that such an obvious concept would be easy to understand for an all knowing gender critical woman who knows The Truth would see that!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2024 14:29

I don't necessarily think this is Ava's first rodeo here on FWR. Posters like Ava always seem to be able to make time to ineffectually scold women here.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2024 14:30

Still, it keeps them happy.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 31/12/2024 14:42

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2024 14:29

I don't necessarily think this is Ava's first rodeo here on FWR. Posters like Ava always seem to be able to make time to ineffectually scold women here.

Everyone's gotta have a hobby...

And so the elusive secrets of how to make 2+2=5 are once again denied to the dinosaurs...

AlisonDonut · 31/12/2024 14:50

It is all fine when some special people want to fake their documents but when other less special people want to, it's nasty towards the special people.

Got it?

GailBlancheViola · 31/12/2024 15:30

AlisonDonut · 31/12/2024 14:50

It is all fine when some special people want to fake their documents but when other less special people want to, it's nasty towards the special people.

Got it?

That would appear to be the size of it.

solopanda · 31/12/2024 15:32

Hang on. So my husband could get one and then I'd be married to a woman on my marriage certificate even though when I got married he was a man?

Sasskitty · 31/12/2024 15:40

solopanda · 31/12/2024 15:32

Hang on. So my husband could get one and then I'd be married to a woman on my marriage certificate even though when I got married he was a man?

Such a pretty feminine woman though.

ellenback21 · 31/12/2024 15:45

AngelAva · 31/12/2024 14:15

Posting another comment and reading a few more takes 5 minutes. I have 5 minutes. Joining the "11 year gender war" would take all day. If not 11 years. And I quite simply don't have that long.

I would have thought that such an obvious concept would be easy to understand for an all knowing gender critical woman who knows The Truth would see that!

Hey Ange, #BeKind

AlisonDonut · 31/12/2024 15:51

solopanda · 31/12/2024 15:32

Hang on. So my husband could get one and then I'd be married to a woman on my marriage certificate even though when I got married he was a man?

Yes you'd be a lesbian. Welcome to the modern world.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2024 15:55

At the moment the spousal exit clause would kick in so that you can end the marriage before the certificate can be granted, but of course TRAs want to abolish that.

https://www.transwidowsvoices.org/spousal-exit-clause#:~:text=It%20is%20a%20safeguard%20for,partner%20is%20granted%20a%20GRC.

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