Freedom of Information requests about SEEN and Mumsnet

[carpety]

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/user/laura_brown_4

Dozens of requests to various public sector bodies asking about SEEN Networks and MN posts made by employees.

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1hobn9b/seen_network/

"There's been discussion here previously of the Sex Equality and Equity Network (SEEN). I've been using Freedom of Information requests to investigate this group's activities, particularly in the Civil Service (where they seem to have originated), and thought people might be interested in what I've learned."

Seems that this requestor is on a mission to unmask heretics.

Someone who nearly passes but doesn't quite make it?

Near misses have to be reported using RIDDOR, maybe the HSE have changed it to the Reporting of Injurious, Dinosaurian and Dangerous Opinion Regulation. 😂

It's ridiculous, as are the people who reported.

Ooh, I’ve been looking for a new username!

Twirls

Very good, whoever you are!

Yes. What about all the poor trans ladies with ‘outie’ fannies?

"Near misses have to be reported using RIDDOR, maybe the HSE have changed it to the Reporting of Injurious, Dinosaurian and Dangerous Opinion Regulation. "

I'm a little upset/triggered/harmed (delete as appropriate) that Ms Brown has started her post "well hello ladies" - surely she/her should have checked everyone's gender identity and pronouns and preferred appellations before using such a generalised phrase. I've only just got up and not sure how I'm identifying today.

Chapeau! 🤣

I imagine Laura's search started by looking through the HMRC staff directory, should such a thing exist, for senior members of staff called Maxipaws and Hoarderoffacts.

Are your pronouns Pingu / Hungover today?

Not even joking, I genuinely found that little "ladies" addressing a group of women with whom the poster disagrees surprisingly sexist from someone who presumably identifies as progressive. These TRAs just can't help themselves can they?

But then again, they really can't help themselves from utilising sexist gender stereotypes, because in their trans-inclusive conception of "man" == "a person who sees themself in the social gender contructs traditionally aligned to male people" and "woman" == "a person who sees themself in the social gender contructs traditionally aligned to female people", stereotypes are their reality.

Being a genderist means being totally committed to sexism. Sexism what the gender game is all about. No questioning or debate about women being 'feminine' and 'ladies'. I'm not sure what men have to be - 'masculine' and 'macho' probably.

If biological reality and the variations in tastes and habits of actual humans fail to conform to sexist fantasy, that is 'phobic'

Not even joking, I genuinely found that little "ladies" addressing a group of women with whom the poster disagrees surprisingly sexist from someone who presumably identifies as progressive. These TRAs just can't help themselves can they?

I agree.

'Ladies' is marginally less sexist than 'harpies', I suppose.

Although - tangent - Harpy eagles are fucking BOSS.

'The first written record of the harpy eagle is in Carl Linnaeus' 1758 Systema Naturae.
He describes the bird as the Vultur harpyja, named after the Greek mythological spirit the harpy, that had the body of an eagle and the face of a human.
This comparison is fitting, largely due to the harpy eagle’s facial disk.
The facial disk is composed of feathers that form a circle around the bird’s face, which they can lift or lower as they please. When the feathers of the facial disk are raised, they help direct sounds to the birds’ ears, which are located on the sides of its head.'

Love the:

• she her
• Ladies
• fanny pics
• cis woman
• assumption real women on here don’t live normal lives

Clearly a sane individual who really knows what it is to be an actual woman. ‘They’ will feel right at home on this fearless bastion of women’s rights.

Some of you may feel as disappointed as I do that there is neither a Fanny Craddock nor Leslie Phillips gif on here.

Why do TRAs who come onto MN always sound like some minor character from an early 2000s US-based sitcom (one that was cancelled half way through the first season for being rubbish)?

Do you think Laura’s doughnuts all look like Fanny’s?

Words on one side, picture on the other!

Remind me when the weather warms up and I get my wheel back out and I'll make one.

Maybe you should go for AI gerbil spelling:
'Harpic of Moms not' or something, just to confuse the uninitiated.

<flaps wings>
<eyes horizon for victims>

(I could get quite into this.)

Careful. Do you want Peter Leslie, or do you want Fanny?

Business at the front, party at the back?

Is there a reference for this rule?