Freedom of Information requests about SEEN and Mumsnet

[carpety]

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/user/laura_brown_4

Dozens of requests to various public sector bodies asking about SEEN Networks and MN posts made by employees.

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1hobn9b/seen_network/

"There's been discussion here previously of the Sex Equality and Equity Network (SEEN). I've been using Freedom of Information requests to investigate this group's activities, particularly in the Civil Service (where they seem to have originated), and thought people might be interested in what I've learned."

Seems that this requestor is on a mission to unmask heretics.

Gerbils do take prude in their spilling skels

Those vowels sound more like the Quokkas.

Laura (I know you're reading this), I am a member of one of the civil service SEEN groups. The group has been a hugely valuable wealth of support and friendship to me since its inception. I've met some wonderful new colleagues and friends through it, and all whilst sticking up for women's rights too! Win win!

Honestly, I feel bad for you. You only get one short and precious life, and you're choosing to spend yours doing this? You're trying to stop people from building networks and helping women and children? Is that what you want out of life? Really? Why not try another hobby? One that brings you fulfillment and meaning?

It's not clear exactly what problem Laura has with posts like this for example:

"There isn't a Civil Service Woman's network any more. Because it wasn't compatible with gender ideology. And the presenter explained that he'd been shut out of the his branch of the LGBT+ network for saying he was same sex attracted. So I think there is a definite gap in the staff networks for anyone who believes sex is real, binary, immutable and important. There aren't any, other than SEEN who would ever represent me."

Does Laura not think that exclusively same sex attracted people deserve to have representation? Sounds a tad homophobic.

Anybody requesting an FOI on a particular Mumsnet posting name

(a) does not understand FOIs ; they cannot reveal personal data

(b) does not understand Mumsnet posting names - I used to change one letter in my name every month to make advanced search impossible

I’m adding ‘Harpies’ to my honourable soubriquets, ‘middle class woman of a certain age’ and ‘Bloody difficult woman’.

And as for being locked in alone at home- of for the chance. Since Covid and the normalisation of working from home, no one ever seems to leave the house except me. I can’t remember the last time I was home alone.

Don't forget 'rights-hoarding dinosaur' and member of the Prosecco Stormfront.

That last one really grates, actually. Prosecco is vile IMO.

Luckily I wear a large T-shirt and have room for them all across my ample bosom.

It's outrageous and I wish to lodge a complaint.

Although I'm slightly mollified by finding Terry Thomas, who also did a magnificent 'Hello, ladies'.

That's the problem we have – we are up against people who have plenty of time on their hands, because they are unemployable.

I'd forgotten 'Prosecco Stormfront'.
I also hate the stuff. 'Champagne Stormfront' sounds much better. That is a weather forecast I could get in front of, equipped with large buckets.

Gebril, shorely?

"Domesticated Zombies" was the other one

Pin/Gu surely?

Bloody hell some people really don't like women talking to each other do they?

Surely whatever your job, it's absolutely fine to post anonymously on mumsnet. I don't think any employment clause claiming otherwise would stand up in court. Employees aren't slaves, they're allowed their own personal opinions FFS.

It really is Stasi adjacent.

champagne just gives me flashbacks to working in a Mayfair strip club before the big financial crash.

(not envy).

It seems Laura Brown is self identifying as witchfinder general. Really disturbing stuff.

You probably know this, but just in case, Stormfront is a neo nazi group/site. "Prosecco Stormfront" is the progessive boys and girls' "clever" (ahem) way of simultaneously dismissing Mumsnet posters as frivolous women and slandering them as Nazis.

Just another clear demonstration that they have no idea what we are actually saying and why, just another of the stupid soundbites and self-congratulatory cliches they echo back to each other.

It's risible, but I avoid making jokes about this particular bit of dumbassitude as I have no doubt that would be maliciously or just stupidly weaponised as MN thinking it's funny to be called Nazis, rather than the truth that MN thinks people who are so stupid and/or uninformed they equate a bunch of women talking about why sex matters with Nazism are utter clowns.

Just wanted to wish you all a Harpy New Year- it being nearly 2025 and all that

@FlirtsWithRhinos fair enough.
I'm willing to joke about the idiots and their verbiage, though.
Just for clarity, I am no fan of Nazis, they did my wider family no favours during WWII.

Bloody hell to all of this.

For avoidance of doubt, this MN thinks people who are so stupid and/or uninformed they equate a bunch of women talking about why sex matters with Nazism are utter clowns is exactly what I meant. Thanks Rhinos.

Merry Terfmas and a Harpy New Year to you, too!

I've only just read the thread and links - clearly a doxxing attempt but also clearly a really very stupid short sighted one as HMRC pointed out in their letter.

I think it's great - another example of exactly why SEENS are needed and indeed, how vexatious TRAs are.

Harpy new year!