Green Party’s “persecution of women and gender critical members must end”.

[Hairyesterdaygonetoday]

The Green Party of England and Wales has long been utterly captured by transgenderism. Long-standing, hard-working members have been vilified and in some cases forced out of the party. Many other environmentalists have left in despair at the environment being pushed down the list of priorities.

The Green Women’s Declaration today published an open letter to the party leadership, stating that the persecution of women and GC members must end.

https://greenwomensdeclaration.uk/open-letter-to-the-leadership-of-the-green-party-of-england-and-wales-gpew/

... and if there are any missing elements in the Nordic model re: safety for women, cooperation between two women and so on, a model can be adapted. This does not have to be one or the other side; if another country wants to implement the Nordic Model, they can always add more safeguards.

However, in some countries like Germany, "sex workers" can now be registered to have a social security account for their work ("just like any other work") BUT if they are not in charge but dependent on a criminal organization or illegally entered the country or forced in any other way, those people will not register the women or permit them to do that themselves. Social security does not solve all problems in one swipe, when the context is illegal and criminal. Only a small amount are registered at all.

Misogynists support free-for-all legalised prostitution.... Quelle surprise.

Nordic model now on the other hand....
nordicmodelnow.org/

Legalisation is different from decriminalisation, HTH

Should sex work be an option for 16 year old boys for their CV "work experience"....

The Green party shouldn't be promoting prostitution, or gender ideology. They should be addressing environmental issues. They can woke the fuck off tbh.

https://nordicmodelnow.org/myths-about-prostitution/myth-women-involved-in-prostitution-in-sweden-routinely-have-their-children-taken-into-care-and-other-myths/

https://nordicmodelnow.org/myths-about-prostitution/myth-regulation-makes-prostitution-safe/

thanks @Circumferences

Just a reminder that the Green Party Women's Committee were actually elected. They are not some random GC entryist movement.

The elections are open to all "non-men" in the GPEW so males who think they aren't men could vote too. In spite of this, year after year some gender critical women get elected.

It's almost like there are lots of Green party members who share their views but I expect Christina has another explanation.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend Thankyou for that - it is horrific.

Violence and coercion are still very much a job hazard for women working in prostitution in countries such as the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany. And furthermore, legalisation and the state taxing the women does not stop the trafficking of other women. In fact, wherever prostitution is legalised there also arises an alternative underworld of price under-cutting; drugs and sexual slavery.

The Guardian is reporting that the greens have lost all but one of their seats in the Irish election. Could it be a backlash against the greens’ women harming policies? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/01/irish-greens-face-virtual-wipeout-after-general-election-rout

Interesting debate (filmed in 2022) between Julie Bindel and Elizabeth Nolan Brown, about whether "a good society should criminalise the purchase of sex".

https://reason.com/video/2022/05/17/feminists-debate-sex-work-the-soho-forum

As mentioned, legalisation is different from decriminalisation.

@inkymoose, the same Julie Bindel who lied about Pornhub having a "war r*pe category"? Great source there.

Given that the GREEN party was originally about the environment, hence the name Green, it would make more sense for those the Mens Rights Activists - those that want to promote sex trafficking/prostitution, and the removal of womens sex-based human rights, to remove the name Green from their party as they no longer care about the environment and instead have a regressive and misogynistic ideology and platform that is incompatible with original green policies.

https://greens.scot/news/snare-ban-victory-an-important-step-for-scotlands-wildlife

Thanks to the Scottish Greens, snare traps are now banned in Scotland effective as of 7 days ago.

Great news. However it doesn't exonerate them for their dreadful treatment of women. I was paid up member until 2 years ago when I stopped because the Greens were so far off the mark supporting gender ideology.

Maybe people just find them increasingly irrelevant to the things they feel are important? That would be my guess anyway.

Super! Still won't vote for any party that pretends not to know what a woman is.

No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party who ignores her sex.

Oh, they finally dragged themselves away from the Mens Rights Activism to throw a crumb of a nod to what their party originally stood for, did they? It must have upset them to not have to focus 100% of their efforts on their misogynistic ideology.

Mm hmm. If you watch the video, the difference between decriminalisation and legalisation is discussed.

It seems as though a lot of people say they don't like Julie Bindel. I'm not one of them. I find her articulate, clear and interesting. She also has a sense of humour, something feminists are occasionally accused of not having.

Human trafficking, principally for sex exploitation through prostitution, in Germany is the highest in the EU and increasing.

Is that the Pornhub at the centre of huge American lawsuits by individuals (including children) who had been trafficked and raped and had their abuse uploading to Pornhub who refused to remove it? Who have just had to take down 90% of their videos?

Thanks largely to one poster, this thread seems now to be largely about sex work rather than about the subject matter for which it was started.

In what way was this ‘thanks to the Greens’? The legislation was introduced by the SNP in response to the independent Werrity Report on the management of Grouse Moors. The amendment to include the banning of snares was proposed by Gillian Martin, an SNP MSP. The final vote on the bill was 84:30 so did not rely on the Greens to carry either.

if someone is selling derails, you don't have to buy it.

I'm an ex Green member, I just got hacked off with them wasting my subs on stupid internal witch hunts and spaffing MY MONEY paying off the members and officers that they had lost court cases to after said witch hunts had been dragged through the courts.

I'm friends with the local councillor and PPC, she's a good egg, but the party lost its way and it lost my money.

No, the Irish Green Party gender policies are more or less the same as any other party's, all the main parties have the same pro-gender-ideology policies. However, they all, including the GP, downplayed them in the recent election campaign, removing any mention of transgender issues from their campaign material. It's as if they all knew it was a vote-loser...

The Greens lost all their seats but one because they were the junior party in a 3-way coalition, and the junior party always carries the can for all the failings of a coalition government; and because the majority of the electorate either don't care about the environment, or feel that environmental protection measures impact too heavily on the most economically disadvantaged. Or both.

Irish GP gender policies are pretty much standard fare in Irish politics, unlike in the UK.