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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gendered vocabulary should be removed from pregnancy care, suggests Labour MP

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Gymnopedie · 21/11/2024 18:53

Gendered vocabulary should be removed from pregnancy care, suggests Labour MP (from the Independent via MSN)

And what the hell is the difference between a transman and a trans masculine person?

If it were to happen (removing gendered vocabulary) we'd have people who bleed, people who are pregnant... And I know it's already happened in a lot of places but it is a choice and the tide is turning. Greater awareness of the risks of cervical cancer, fine. But changing an entire medical lexicon to accommodate a few isn't.

A transman is a man? Nope.

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rubyslippers · 21/11/2024 18:56

The only people who can give birth are women
it is the MOST gendered thing you can do
language means something - women, mothers, breastfeeding

rubyslippers · 21/11/2024 18:57

A transman is a woman
if they’re so horrified by their female body then why are they giving birth?

Snowypeaks · 21/11/2024 19:05

"Trans men and trans masculine people face a number of barriers to healthcare..." which they have erected themselves.

PronounssheRa · 21/11/2024 19:10

Alex Sobel has form for spouting nonsense

Gendered vocabulary should be removed from pregnancy care, suggests Labour MP
Katkins17 · 21/11/2024 19:12

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few ..... 99.9% 0f pregnancies are women...the minuscule amount of Trans identifying women who also fall pregnant, or need maternity services, have no right to dictate what we're called or referred too.

Snowypeaks · 21/11/2024 19:12

PronounssheRa · 21/11/2024 19:10

Alex Sobel has form for spouting nonsense

I thought I recognised the name. You've saved me some googling - thanks.

Katkins17 · 21/11/2024 19:14

Actually I should have said 100% of pregnancies are women....0.01% don't identify as female.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 21/11/2024 19:24

sobel is a dickhead with form for anti women dickery

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 21/11/2024 19:25

Katkins17 · 21/11/2024 19:12

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few ..... 99.9% 0f pregnancies are women...the minuscule amount of Trans identifying women who also fall pregnant, or need maternity services, have no right to dictate what we're called or referred too.

100%!!

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 21/11/2024 19:25

Katkins17 · 21/11/2024 19:14

Actually I should have said 100% of pregnancies are women....0.01% don't identify as female.

Sorry, just seen this.
Only women, however they identify, agreed 👍.

SquirrelSoShiny · 21/11/2024 19:31

PronounssheRa · 21/11/2024 19:10

Alex Sobel has form for spouting nonsense

Sobel needs to look across the pond and realise that tying his ambitions to 'TQIA' is not the fast track he thought it was going to be.

Toseland · 22/11/2024 21:03

It's such a con.
Why would we do that Mr Sobral?!
99.6% of people are being upset, offended, frightened and made very angry by these changes and having rights being removed (or not realising this) for.... you reckon a grand 00.2% of the population?!
Right.
Are you sure you are not doing this on behalf of the other 00.2%?

Toseland · 22/11/2024 21:04

Or is it 0.04%?!

EasternStandard · 22/11/2024 21:14

PronounssheRa · 21/11/2024 19:10

Alex Sobel has form for spouting nonsense

How nice he thinks he can speak for women and girls.

What male arrogance, he certainly hasn't missed out on that socialisation

lonelywater · 22/11/2024 23:47

how mind blowingly thick do you have to be to believe this fucking nonsense? I often wonder how the likes of Sobel, Whittome, Osbourne et al make it out of the house every day, or tie their shoelaces, or, well, anything at all really.

jeaux90 · 23/11/2024 09:56

I am surprised he went back to these 2017 talking points. What an absolute plank of a man.

Kucinghitam · 24/11/2024 08:00

I can't stand him.

SinnerBoy · 24/11/2024 10:10

I saw the title and guess that it would be Sobel.

MagpiePi · 24/11/2024 10:21

Katkins17 · 21/11/2024 19:12

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few ..... 99.9% 0f pregnancies are women...the minuscule amount of Trans identifying women who also fall pregnant, or need maternity services, have no right to dictate what we're called or referred too.

100% of pregnancies are women.

HermioneWeasley · 24/11/2024 10:51

He’s also written to Wes Streeting demanding that puberty blockers be given to GNC kids. He’s a fucking danger

anyolddinosaur · 24/11/2024 11:00

Read the heading and thought someone was saying lets gets rid of this gender nonsense and talk about sex. Should have realised Labour = nonsense.

TWETMIRF · 24/11/2024 11:00

I think getting rid of gendered terminology is a good idea. No more cervix havers, menstruators, pregnant people nonsense that the genderists so adore and back to sex based language such as woman and mother.

Not what you mean Alex? Well that's what gender does so ditch it and go back to sex based which has led to no confusion for thousands of years. Gender based language is confusing and dehumanising, sex based is clear and treats women as people

Kucinghitam · 24/11/2024 11:06

HermioneWeasley · 24/11/2024 10:51

He’s also written to Wes Streeting demanding that puberty blockers be given to GNC kids. He’s a fucking danger

He's a big supporter of Mermaids, as I recall.

SinnerBoy · 24/11/2024 11:27

Mermaids, fantasy creatures, seem to be apt. I don't think I can expound further safely.

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