More Canadian madness

[TwistedWonder]

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-canadian-mother-was-told-to-be-more-inclusive-after-complaining-about-a-male-wearing-a-childs-bikini-while-showering-with-young-girls-at-her-local-pool

The really have lost the plot - how can anyone justify prioritising men with a fetish over the safeguarding of children?

Then what is wrong with my pointing out that I doubt the veracity of this story because the editor of Reduxx has many past instances of lacking journalistic integrity, which include that she is a neo nazi sympathizer? Why is that telling on myself? Why am I being personally attacked for being critical of the news source of this story?

I didn't get from the article that she's a 'sympathizer'. More that she supports freedom of speech.

This is uncomfortable when what is being said is grim, but I'd rather know what people's views are than have the press censor it.

I also think journalistic integrity is important.

You can only dream of having as much journalistic integrity as Reduxx, or Slatz. Either you're incredibly uninformed about their track record, or you're just trolling.

The article above seems to have no bearing on Reduxx or Slatz's reliability, unless the claim is that she is supposed to have misrepresented the neo-Nazi in question or made up something false about him? I don't see anything like that.

The personal attack was the "you're telling on yourself here"; not asking me to reflect (but being fairly vague about which part of what I wrote that I needed to reflect on). I engaged in good faith -- I just said I didn't believe the story and I have serious issues with the source of the story. Then I got attacked personally. I will try to remember to stay off the feminist threads. It's a little echo chambery in here. See ya.

I just said I didn't believe the story and I have serious issues with the source of the story. Then I got attacked personally.

Well, yes, when you attacked someone personally - particularly a woman who many of us know from following for years is incredibly brave and reliable - you got pushback.

You don't get to whinge about being "attacked personally" after the things you wrote on this thread.

And the not so fragrant veronica ivy

Echo chamber = not bowing to the almighty penis and accepting the women’s rights is akin to Nazism

All they have is 'she's a nazi/right wing/extremist'. It must be pretty depressing.

This is the board for discussions on sex and 'gender'. It is well established as a place for women to meet and discuss the issues around gender ideology and its impact upon women and children. For many years it was the only place.

You might well be happier on another board if you are not open to discuss this most fundamental issue - without making personal accusations and slurs against other women.

This must have been a different occasion...last year. ( from the Toronto Sun)

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-transgender-female-swimmer-50-changes-with-young-girls-at-barrie-event

Oooh one of my posts with names in has been removed, wonder if the other post with one name will also be removed. It's almost as if certain men have something to hide, I wonder what it could be???

I live in Quebec and honestly there's none of that nonsense over here

I guess the days when the ACLU, in the person of David Goldberger, fought for the rights of Nazi's to march, are long forgotten.

I'm not sure what journalistic integrity is supposed to mean in 2024,because it has nothing to do with the ethics journalists were actually supposed to uphold.

There most certainly is plenty of "that nonsense " in Quebec and the whole of Canada..... and the UK and Spain and Germany and etc etc

You may not be seeing reports about it, but it's there.
I'd suggest a site to look at if your brave enough? But you'll have to figure out which site by yourself. If you want.

"Far away countries of which we know little". Which is most of 'em, for me, including Canada. I'm just reading about Nunavut. I'd never even heard of it, but it seems it's been going since 1999!

@Sleepydoor
Perhaps you can use this article to broaden your reading of news articles and journalists. Not just the one I'm linking. This kind of shit has been happening for a while.

Outrage as transgender woman Melody Wiseheart, 50, competes against TEENAGERS in Canadian swim meet 'and shares changing room with terrified girls'
The event was sanctioned by Swimming Canada and Swim Ontario which issued a statement to the Toronto Sun defending Wiseheart's participation.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12868227/transgender-woman-Melody-Wiseheart-swim-canada.html

Sleepydoor

Please do not DM me again. If you have any issues then put them on this thread for all to see. If certain things bother me then rest assured they will bother other people too, whether they post or lurk. I think on this particular subject of men insisting on being with naked young girls it's best to have the conversation out in the open rather than it being shut down as "doesn't happen".

As for giving me your credentials I do not care. Most people who say trust me I'm a lawyer or doctor or scientist or whatever tend to bs imo. Thank you.

Elizabeth Fry must be turning in her grave. She specifically campaigned for women only prisons because of the dangers and assaults women prisoners were subject to. And she knew what a woman was - not a man.

Whatever @PurpleSparkledPixie This is the salacious DM I sent you:

Hi there! I have given some thought to the comments on this thread. I swore to myself I would not continue to interact on this thread and reported some posts to MN for the personal attacks. That is why MN deleted some posts. This is what I think. I do agree that there are some troubling issues with trans people using changerooms. I don't agree that anyone born male should be able to compete against females, just because they identify as female. However, I will note that the case in Barrie was an open competition -- it is open to all ages as an opportunity for anyone to just get an official time for their speciality. That open meet is not going to jeopardize any young girl from getting a place on a team or whatever. My issue that I raised on that thread in particular was that the source of the story is very troubling. I went to one of the best journalism schools in Canada in the 90s and I am a lawyer. I care very much about journalistic integrity and truth. I believe we can have conversations about trans issues without resorting to hyperbole and exaggeration. I don't think it helps to call someone a flying monkey and suggest they have bad intentions because they point out that the person reporting a story is not a journalist and seems to hate trans people or that the editor of a publication formerly worked for an organization that I personally know planted "instigators" or activists into situations in order to perpetuate their narratives.

Stop @ ing me and I will leave you all alone. Like, forever.

The day I found out neo nazis hate trans people because they believe trans people were "invented" by Jewish people to "infect" white Christians and turn good white Christian men into women was a day everything started to make sense to me.

Can't trust anything someone from Reduxx says, because they have a vested interest in lying to support their antisemetism.

I mean, I was a student at a university with a prominent school of journalism in the late 90s myself.

Quite a lot of the students I was friendly with went on to work for the CBC, and today are excellent examples of people who are quite happy to bury a story if it doesn't fit the right narrative.

Not just around gender issues either.

Good for you. Not everyone is completely lacking in integrity. Stop suggesting I am.

Fairly certain "the people who lack integrity" are just people she doesn't agree with.