Republican Congresswoman bring forward Bill to ban transwomen from female facilities in Congress

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The quoted comments from the congresswoman are brilliant

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

1. Still fail to see relevancy.

1. Mace's record of being anti-woman leads a reasonable person she isn't persuing this legislation because she cares about protecting women.

1. Sex offenders have never been much for following the law. Why would this kind of law change the outcome?

Mace's record of being anti-woman leads a reasonable person she isn't persuing this legislation because she cares about protecting women.

How is a woman who is protecting the definition of the word woman and protecting single sex female spaces, “anti-woman”?

1. Sex offenders have never been much for following the law. Why would this kind of law change the outcome?

Women will get raped anyway, so who cares?
Shame in you!

Yeah the women are going to get raped anyway so who cares? 🙄

What makes you say that? Of course it would have been awful, not to mention entirely unnecessary.
Still attempting to distract from the fact that you are cool with girls being exposed to predators and losing sports scholarships and prizes to male people, as long as the male people get what they want?

The problem here is that there's already trans women in the loos. They're not just for members of Congress but for staff. Nancy Mace didn't care a bit about it before. She's grandstanding about a trans member of Congress.

Also, Nancy Mace is a pretty appalling person.

Here's how much Congress has historically cared about women's access to facilities.

https://19thnews.org/2024/11/congress-bathrooms-history-women-lawmakers/

Sex offenders have never been much for following the law. Why would this kind of law change the outcome?

You see a girl aged about 10 heading to the toilets. A man follows her :

Do you :
a) follow her to make sure she’s ok
b) assume he is a TiM and leave him to it?

until recently b) wasn’t an option any would have considered, now the concept of “trans” is widespread. Boundaries have been lowered. Access of predatory males to female/ has been enhanced

Luckily, women, like Mace, are now fighting back.

If you fail to look up her voting record, that's on you.

If you wouldn't support a bill guaranteeing single sex toilets for women, even if a Democrat proposed it, shows us that Mace herself is not the issue. The issue is that you don't support single sex toilets.

‘Also, Nancy Mace is a pretty appalling person.‘

Again, I don’t much care what she’s like as a person, what I care about is the legislative landscape - and imo opinion, this bill improves it

False equivalence.

How does a bathroom law lower sexual assault on women?

How does a bathroom law lower sexual assault on women?

As there is clear evidence that sexual assaults increase when facilities are mixed sex, how would it not?

Have a look at Katie Dolatowski to refresh your memory

Why would I not assume it's her caregiver?

As I said, have bathroom bills been shown to lower sexual assaults on women in a statistically significant manner over a number of years?

Because male caregivers are not usually found in women's facilities.

I’m not asking about her voting record? I am asking how those things make her “anti woman”. Can you answer?

You know, for a TRA plopper, you’re not one of the better ones, sorry if that disappoints you.

@PinkChesnut women want single sex spaces for dignity, privacy and safety.

I am so fed up of these self-righteous, self-proclaimed 'good people' - who are shown to be mendacious obfuscators time and time again - who preach to us about how people who want single-sex facilities are 'bad people'.

I am so over it.

I already have.

Trust whatever feelings you hold for me, I mirror them in regards to you.

Her caregiver would be with her, not following her in.
If a 10-year-old needs help toileting, then he should take her to the disabled toilet.

And he could be challenged about his presence in the women's toilets, were it not for the designation of those toilets as mixed sex in effect, or by law.

Sex offenders have never been much for following the law. Why would this kind of law change the outcome?

Do you really not understand?

Because men (in the original sex-based meaning of the word) commit the vast majority of sex crimes. And many men fetishise women's privacy and the things they do in woman-only spaces. Such men are motivated sexually to get into those spaces. Not every man (original sex-based meaning of the word) who wants to get into women's spaces is motivated sexually - some simply feel they are happier and safer there and believe their desires/needs in the matter are more important than the desires/needs of women not to have men in their spaces - not not zero men either. A long way from zero.

If men who claim they are women are allowed to freely enter female spaces, no man in a female space can be challenged, because any man (original sex-based meaning of the word) can make that claim and who is to say he is lying? Not to mention that men who, as far as anyone can tell, genuinely do claim to be women are just as likely, statistically it even seems more likely, to be sex offenders as other men.

But if men are known to be not freely allowed to enter women's spaces, any who are there can be robustly challenged. And that means women's spaces are safer than they are if we have to accept the presence of men there.

It's like locking your door. Thieves gonna thieve, but they get to theive less often the fewer opportunities they get.

And that's without even starting on the desensitisation and escalation element, whereby the transgressive action loses its thrill over time and has to be taken further.

I have a question for you. Do you genuinely believe that the fundamental difference between men and women is not that men have male bodies and women have female bodies, but that women have womanny minds which are sinply mentally different to the manny minds of men? If not, what do you think.the difference is? Why do we even think some humans are "men" and some are "women" at all?

Not always.

I don't make it a habit of stalking other people into bathrooms.

I am a mother to two incredible children.

Also I can say that I have shared many public bathrooms with trans women and I have never witnessed them following a child.

And many men fetishise women's privacy and the things they do in woman-only spaces

including McBride, who has posted a picture of himself in a female toilet. Who does this, if not for secondary gain of some kind?