US Election results

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Kamala Harris 27
45.2% popular vote
12,768,875 votes

Donald Trump 99
53.8% popular vote
15,275,564 votes

270 to win

U.S. election results 2024 | CBC News

6/11/2024 @ 01:25 GMT

So segregation is now to be applauded and is progressive.

Utter madness.

Erm…

That article was from May 2021 I believe. Were White cisheteronormatives were banned from attending any ceremonies. actually excluded ?

so it was a joke?

It's satire, which tends to be based on reality. Like this:

www.nationalreview.com/news/harvard-university-to-offer-segregated-graduation-ceremonies-based-on-race-class-sexuality/amp/

Harvard plans to holdld_ a “Disability Celebration,” a “Global Indigenous Celebration,” an “Asian American, Pacific Islander, Desi-American (APIDA) Celebration,” a “First Generation-Low Income Celebration,” a “Jewish Celebration,” a “Latinx Celebration,” a “Lavender Celebration” which refers to LGBT students a “Black Celebration,” a “Veterans Celebration,” and an “Arab Celebration.” The university will also hold a central commencement ceremony for students of all backgrounds.^

Real or parody?

I’d say it isn’t real but I didn’t believe some people would really think that Humans could change their sex, but they do. 😳

Dawn Butler, who also stands in solidarity with the Queer Giraffe 🦒 community

https://www.theguardian.com/science/shortcuts/2019/oct/29/99-per-cent-giraffes-gay-loving-looks-misunderstood

Well there was that call on Latino media with Biden where he inadvertently called voters garbage

What is ridiculous is that it is so hard to tell.

Ok, I know Babylon Bee is a satirical site, but the National Review?

Anyway, Democrat Woman certainly nailed it. That must have been written a few years ago, but it's all true. And it's easy to see that voices like hers would not get much of a hearing in liberal America.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/11/06/2024-election-results-live-coverage-updates-analysis/bernie-sanders-election-response-00187980
Bernie Sanders gets it. He doesn't insult working class people either by calling them "deplorables" or "garbage." Anyone remember "gammon" here? Labour lost the election because of that. I suspect many Democrats will just push the clown show of the alphabet people and the Intifada because they're too out of touch to do anything different.

Marina Hyde

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/08/donald-trump-democrats-republicans-forget-lessons-us-election

This is only anecdotal ‘data’ but a lot of the American women on Ovarit, who are overwhelmingly feminist and of the Left, expressed for months that they were in a bind when it came to the election: they absolutely didn’t want to vote for Trump but they also didn’t approve of Democrat policies regarding women’s rights/spaces/sports and gender ideology.

These women frequently discussed whether they would actually vote or not, or whether they would write in a candidate on the ballot (where that’s allowed).

Perhaps people with sentiments like these women are the Democrats who stayed at home.

Like in the UK where we got Labour, not because people wanted Labour but because they didn’t want the Tories.

She liked Vivek Ramiswarmy? ( spelling?) and she also liked Robert Kennedy, and if he hadn't stood down she'd have voted for him. She really dislikes the moralising of the 'progressive Left' and she wants to stick two fingers up to it.

There was something positive and humorous about the team around him. If they stick around, its feasible that they could make changes that its difficult to see a harris administration doing.

I think theres been a gradual change in left/right politics where the right are picking up votes from the left who just asssumed were theirs forever- the working class, minority groups, women. But its not just the political parties who arent seeing it yet, commentors and people faithful to the left aren't either. They are wearing their left badge with pride, chastising everyone for thinking differently, not realising that lots of people dont want want the new left are offering.

“Some party hack decreed that the people
had lost the government's confidence
and could only regain it with redoubled effort.
If that is the case, would it not be be simpler,
If the government simply dissolved the people
And elected another?”

Wise old owl, was Bertolt.

Interesting.

Just published a BBC article on Harris's loss with a focus on women:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3e8z53qyd5o

At least one thing was taken for granted before voting day - women across the US were going to turn out for Kamala Harris.

Just as months of relentless polling showed Harris in a virtual tie with Donald Trump, many of those same surveys told the story of a yawning gender gap.

It was a strategy Harris’s team was betting on, hoping that an over-performance among women could make up for losses elsewhere.

It didn’t happen.

AND

Abortion did matter to women, it just didn’t matter enough, said Evan Ross Smith, a pollster and campaign consultant.

“Voters - particularly the women - who feel strongest about abortion are already voting for Democrats,” he said. But Democrats were unable to raise the importance of abortion for women who didn’t yet see it as a pressing issue.

“The abortion argument did not penetrate at all with non-college educated women, did not move them an inch. And they lost ground with Latinos,” Mr Smith said.

Its perhaps worth considering how many latino women are catholic and anti-abortion as a result of that.

It also says that a poll in October show 15% would NEVER vote a woman for the job of President too.

Democrat strategist Phillip Reines has come out and said that the Democrats have been"taken hostage by the far Left"; and that most Democrats are sensible people with common sense, who don't want males competing in girls' sports and who want to control illegal migration.

I did wonder about that @RedToothBrush as a factor. Although European catholic countries have by and large legalised abortion, it’s not been without a fight in a lot of them. KH would have been better focusing on overall impact on women’s health if eg ectopic pregnancies were just allowed to proceed

Perhaps people with sentiments like these women are the Democrats who stayed at home.

I think this is what the overall picture shows. As in the UK election tories staying home let Labour win on a pathetic amount of votes.

And if, not just women on abortion issues, but also (rumoured) those who felt Biden (and so Harris) had failed to constrain Israel, and women concerned about trans rights, all stayed home, again its more the Democrats lost that Trump won.

I posted that more because a lot of people are saying America has gone mad, right wing, etc.. But in actual votes no.

However, how Trump and all those hanging on his coat tails behave once in office ... it may seem like that.

Whereas in the UK having Labour in power seems to just be continuing the Tory agenda.

As an after thought, even if the male Hispanic/Latino vote increased by 18% (I dont have the figures of actual numbers) I suspect that in terms of the population as a whole its not that big.

I might try and find an analysis of votes that puts actual numbers ie I have no idea how many white males there are in the US, so their vote for Trump decreasing by 1% may off set the increase of 18% by other males!

Those in power actually have a pretty limited range of choices on things like the economy. Which is why trans seems so attractive; to those surrounding themselves just with lobbyists it seems such an easy win that no one could possibly object to unless they were Nazis.

I think that's a really good point, @TrumptonsFireEngine and it's certainly what Theresa May's government thought. I'm not sure anyone else will make that mistake here again. Starmer at least knows it's contentious, as did Boris, Rishi and Truss, for all their shortcomings.

It works the other way too though, surely? Starmer can't drastically improve the world economy, stop wars in Gaza and Ukraine, and probably not fix our polluted rivers. But it's well within his power to guarantee women's spaces, to ensure no State funding for sporting organisations that do not play fair by women, to ensure sex education in schools is dealt with sensibly, and so on.