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Bravo Gisèle

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HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 23/10/2024 12:24

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgr2yym0nko

"I want all women who have been raped to say: Madame Pelicot did it, I can too. I don't want them to be ashamed any longer,"

"I've been told I'm brave. This isn't being brave, it's having the will and determination to change society."
"Bravery means jumping into the sea to rescue someone. I just have will and determination," she said.
"This is why I come here every day... Even if I hear unspeakable things, I am holding on because of all the men and women who are right behind me."

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BBC News

Gisèle Pelicot takes stand in French mass rape trial

She tells a court she wants women who have been raped to know that "it's not for us to have shame - it's for them".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgr2yym0nko

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MarieDeGournay · 23/10/2024 12:27

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 23/10/2024 12:24

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgr2yym0nko

"I want all women who have been raped to say: Madame Pelicot did it, I can too. I don't want them to be ashamed any longer,"

"I've been told I'm brave. This isn't being brave, it's having the will and determination to change society."
"Bravery means jumping into the sea to rescue someone. I just have will and determination," she said.
"This is why I come here every day... Even if I hear unspeakable things, I am holding on because of all the men and women who are right behind me."

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What a woman. Courage personified.

TrainedByDinosaurs · 23/10/2024 12:35

I feel quite emotional watching her hold her head high and walk into that courtroom every day. I follow some of the French journalists tweeting about the trial, X translate is brilliant but it’s slow going following what is going on. There doesn’t seem to be much good English coverage day to day.

HarryBlackberry1 · 23/10/2024 12:35

Incredible.

JaninaDuszejko · 23/10/2024 12:36

What she's doing is incredible, she's being utterly selfless making this into an even bigger story so that it effects a change in the law. She's an icon and her husband and those pathetic men who raped her deserve to be put away for a long time. Can't believe they have women who are supporting them and I love that she addressed that.

ErrolTheDragon · 23/10/2024 12:40

Brava indeed.

Because of her bravery, surely no man in France - and hopefully in the wider western world - can pretend he doesn't know what consent means any more.

Snowypeaks · 23/10/2024 12:42

Wonderful woman.

WGACA · 23/10/2024 12:42

Remarkable lady

clarrylove · 23/10/2024 12:43

She is incredible!

UnderOverUp · 23/10/2024 12:44

ErrolTheDragon · 23/10/2024 12:40

Brava indeed.

Because of her bravery, surely no man in France - and hopefully in the wider western world - can pretend he doesn't know what consent means any more.

Sadly I think a lot of men have not read beyond the headline. On the surface they may say it’s awful, but below that they think it’s irrelevant to them.

I certainly don’t know any man - even the good ones - who is following this in the detail that many women I know are.

Aposterhasnoname · 23/10/2024 12:51

Incredible woman

MaidOfAle · 23/10/2024 12:54

These threads should not be in the FWR ghetto. Rape isn't a "women's problem", it is a human rights violation that is perpetrated by men.

Madame Pelicot is so brave and she is absolutely right that the shame of rape should not be women's to bear but be placed on the men who carry it out.

isthereaway · 23/10/2024 12:59

What an incredible woman Gisele Pelicot is. As a survivor myself, on behalf of my Dd who needs to live in safety, & my Ds who wants to live in a decent world, I thank her for her courage. I agree, it is not a women's problem, it is a global human rights issue that affects our whole society.

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 23/10/2024 12:59

I just post here as a matter of course because I like it best.

Feel free to make a post yourself in another board, this woman deserves infinite plaudits and support.

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OuterSpaceCadet · 23/10/2024 13:17

I hope Gisele Pelicot knows how many women around the world are paying attention to her. I am in awe. There's something JKR - like about her strategy and generosity in going through the trial publicly for the sake of all other women.

Men....there was a horrific interview with the mayor of her town bemoaning the negative publicity; saying everyone is bored of the trial; that being unconscious made her suffering far less worthy.

MaidOfAle · 23/10/2024 13:46

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 23/10/2024 12:59

I just post here as a matter of course because I like it best.

Feel free to make a post yourself in another board, this woman deserves infinite plaudits and support.

Sorry, I have come across wrongly. I mean that we shouldn't feel that we have to stick to FWR. I know that posting some topics outside of FWR generates hostile responses and this has a chilling effect on the ability of women generally to speak.

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 23/10/2024 13:59

MaidOfAle · 23/10/2024 13:46

Sorry, I have come across wrongly. I mean that we shouldn't feel that we have to stick to FWR. I know that posting some topics outside of FWR generates hostile responses and this has a chilling effect on the ability of women generally to speak.

Not at all, and I wasn't being snippy.

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UtopiaPlanitia · 23/10/2024 15:07

I have so much admiration for Gisèle - she is an inspiration.

HerculesMulligannn · 23/10/2024 15:22

I read that women are attending the court everyday, some from quite far away, to applaud her in and out of the proceedings each time. I thought that was a lovely thing to do as a show of solidarity and support.

lcakethereforeIam · 23/10/2024 15:43

The Telegraph has reported her testimony

https://archive.ph/UXLNO bypass the paywall

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/23/gisele-pelicot-confronts-husband-dominique-court-rape-trial/

She's an amazing woman.

As for him, I believe he did it because he's a man, because he got off on it and because he hated her. She had a successful career, his was a failure. He drugged and assaulted other career women, possibly killed one. He referred to her as 'la bourgeoisie', which seems contemptuous to me. And he kept humiliating her yet still be her hero when she needed his support for the health problems he created. In the darkness of his mind he must have been so amused.

She's strength personified. She got up from his betrayals and she's looking them all in the eye.

How could you betray me, Gisèle Pélicot asks ex-husband in court confrontation

Victim of France’s largest rape trial takes to stand to give testimony against Dominique Pélicot

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/23/gisele-pelicot-confronts-husband-dominique-court-rape-trial

MarieDeGournay · 23/10/2024 17:30

HerculesMulligannn · 23/10/2024 15:22

I read that women are attending the court everyday, some from quite far away, to applaud her in and out of the proceedings each time. I thought that was a lovely thing to do as a show of solidarity and support.

Here is a video.

Very moving.
Msmoonpie · 23/10/2024 17:32

She is an incredible woman. She is worth a thousand of those snivelling men who even now are trying to pretend they didn’t know what they were doing to her.

Joolsin · 23/10/2024 17:35

She is superb, such a dignified woman. She expresses herself with razor-sharpness.

PronounssheRa · 23/10/2024 17:49

I know she disagrees, but she really is incredibly brave and inspirational.

I'm slightly in awe.

Thedownsideisup · 23/10/2024 17:55

She's my new heroine - what an inspiration she is. The inner strength she has is absolutely incredible.

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSportsIsBack · 23/10/2024 17:56

Brava Gisèle. I hope they throw the book and the bookcase at every last bastard who went along with this debacle.