Women's Equality Party and Chris Kaba

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Tweets yesterday and today lamenting Kaba's death.

This was a violent criminal who was subject to a restraining order from his then-pregnant girlfriend.

Why are WEP tweeting in support of him?

https://x.com/WEP_UK/status/1848648576710107247

Looking at their twitter, they mainly just react to a variety of newspaper articles.

They've reacted to the number of councils at risk of bankruptcy, but say something needs to be done, rather saying what should be done.

They come across as a left wing pressure group, rather than a political party.

He was blocked in by police cars and stationary when shot.

@username1589 ...
Chris Kaba shot someone himself a few days before this happened...
Let's not simplify the facts and present an innocent man who was driving along as an upstanding member of society.

The police didn't know his history at the time of the killing so that's irrelevant to the incident. I believe that criminals should go through the justice system, so we'll have to agree to differ.

kaba went through the justice system-fuck around, find out.

You're obviously very well informed on the subject.

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This is so easily disproven I'm not sure how people keep saying it.

The body cam footage is available online, he was blocked in but not stationary l, he was trying to ram his way out. You can watch the video.

All good points.
How is any of that within the remit of the Women's Equality Party? Even if he had been a model citizen, Kaba is a man. There is no intersectionality argument.

Exactly. The Omnicause Party.

Exactly. The Omnicause Party.

But the pink edition. Like a women's razor.

I think you need to parse the title as Women's (Equality Party), not (Women's Equality) Party.

Right. I had misread the emphasis. Silly me. Must be my ladybrain.

"The police didn't know his history"

Inside Chris Kaba’s criminal past: from knives at 13 to gangland guns

https://www.thetimes.com/article/197ac8af-cacd-477f-b74b-1f959c5f6519?shareToken=08b7214a061cc2411275f7734544818b

Well, that’s quite a read, thanks.

I know that the WEP are true believers that TWAW, but I’m pretty certain that Kaba didn’t actually claim to be a woman. When your ‘intersectionality’ puts your concerns over the lawful shooting of a man who is a suspected murderer before any concern you may have of the violence that man committed against his pregnant girlfriend, then you’ve got a real problem.

It wasn’t released because his family managed to get an injunction as they knew that it would have likely unduly influenced court proceedings.
The police absolutely did know who he was and that he was a suspect in a murder committed hours before.
Im confused. Are you defending him?

That’s because the man trying to ram them got shot.

Better a jury than random posters on social media apps.

@username1589

I don't see how this was a racially motivated murder when taking into account all the facts presented, and the juries outcome?

Whilst Kaba's name wasn't presented in the briefing the officers got, they were presented with the following; "On Monday 5 September 2022, Mr Chris Kaba was driving an Audi motor vehicle in South London. The Audi Mr Kaba was driving was believed to be linked to a firearms incident which took place the previous day and an automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) marker had been placed upon it."

Out of genuine curiosity, and not because I'm trying to be an antagonist... I'm trying to wrap my head around your point of view...

Can you explain why you think this is a racially motivated attack?
I accept the MacPherson report from 1999 showed institutional racism.
I accept the Baroness Casey review from 2021 showed institutional racism.
But why this incident, was?

And, if you were in that situation, if you're being really honest with yourself, what would you have done differently in those 19 seconds the officer had?

I can’t quite believe I’m defending the police here but

1. regardless of how weird I think you have to be to want to be a police officer, I’m very glad we have a police force

2. most of us don’t have people trying to run over us at work

3. not everything is racism

I haven't been following this in detail but if I were a driver (which I'm not) and I were to be stopped by armed police telling me to get out of my vehicle, that is what I would do, terrified, but hoping for the best. I would not stay in my vehicle and start attempting to ram the cars in front of me and behind me in the hope of making my escape, ignoring the risk my actions would pose to officers and members of the public in my way. Surely that in itself must have told the police officers there that they were dealing with someone who was dangerous?

He's a man. That is the start and end of it.

For Black History Month, the Women's Equality Party could...
Tell the history of black women in the NHS as HCPs
Highlight the poor quality of maternal care in the NHS for black women
Remind us of the achievements of black women immigrants in STEM over the last 75 years
Protest against the police strip-searching black teenage girls
Make a documentary about black women representing the UK in sports and the challenges they have had to overcome for sponsorship and recognition
Celebrate the first conviction for FGM

Just off the top of my head. Centring women.

Intersectionality = sexism/misogyny + racism

Exactly.

While I agree political parties shouldn't be one issue, using Kaba as a poster boy for police injustice is just madness.

Generally this case will make it much harder for black people who have actually been victims of police injustice to be believed.

For the WEP they are going into bat for a man who was accused of violence against women. There are also accusations that Kabas gang targetted newly arrived immigrants as part of a protection racket. Its quite clear that Kaba was harmful to other black people and to women

It's the classic woman's mistake - decentre yourself, put someone else first.